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Re: University of Florida shutting down research in Computer Science department

#51
As a 2002 graduate, it pains me to see this. More so, when they are saying that they will cut the TA funding. I got through college because of my TA scholarship, and I still have fond memories of teaching the undergraduates. Some of them are still friends.

We also did some nice research in my Masters, a lot of concepts(Grid/cloud) which we are currently using in our Startup.

In any case, I just hope the department and the University come through this with their reputation intact.

Re: University of Florida shutting down research in Computer Science department

#52
Let us think - how is an engineering department taught by mostly non Engineers? Odd I know, but rumor has it CISE does it. Not so with EE/ECE. BTW, CISE instructors are welcome to join EE/ECE - most of their research is done together already anyway. But hey, who cares about figuring out all of the details, lets just make this a sensation like all the other BS news.

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I graduated from UF in 2009, with degrees in both Electrical Engineering and Computer Science. UF was running into huge budget issues, which they mostly took out on Liberal Arts. At the time, the Computer Science department was under Liberal Arts and Sciences, not engineering. The department chair at the time, Sartaj Sahni, responded by cutting teaching funding and letting some of the best teachers go. UF had a few t…

Letting go of your best teachers sounds like a brutally flawed decision. The only reason I am now getting back into learning programming after a 8 year hiatus, is because of how great my untenured lecturer was in teaching us and inspiring us in the ways of C programming. If not for him, there would be far fewer students from my school who would have stuck with programming. In 2004, we made a facebook group called "Ev…

CISE professors will be able to join EE/ECE.

Re: University of Florida shutting down research in Computer Science department

#54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Letting go of your best teachers sounds like a brutally flawed decision. The only reason I am now getting back into learning programming after a 8 year hiatus, is because of how great my untenured lecturer was in teaching us and inspiring us in the ways of C programming. If not for him, there would be far fewer students from my school who would have stuck with programming. In 2004, we made a facebook group called "Ev…

If you're talking about Dave, he did get cut prematurely.

What the hell happened? He was the only one that cared.

Re: University of Florida shutting down research in Computer Science department

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I graduated from UF in 2007 and have in no way since kept up with departmental politics, but as of then, CISE was a bit of a Frankenstein creature. As an undergraduate, if you were looking for a computing-related degree, you had five possible majors to choose from: * Computer Science (College of Liberal Arts and Sciences; CISE Department) * Computer Engineering with Software Emphasis (College of Engineering; CISE Dep…

No clarity will result. The two Computer Engineering Degrees (software and hardware) are to be combined into one that has N (not yet decided) tracks that will be supported by "certificate programs." So, now you reduce by one clearly defined separation and increse by n-1 less well defined certificate programs.

What of Computer Science? Is that staying under CLAS/CISE?

Re: University of Florida shutting down research in Computer Science department

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post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Letting go of your best teachers sounds like a brutally flawed decision. The only reason I am now getting back into learning programming after a 8 year hiatus, is because of how great my untenured lecturer was in teaching us and inspiring us in the ways of C programming. If not for him, there would be far fewer students from my school who would have stuck with programming. In 2004, we made a facebook group called "Ev…

CISE professors will be able to join EE/ECE.

According to the proposal "Roughly half of the faculty will be offered the opportunity to move to ECE, BME or ISE."

The dean also stated several times and faculty must be accepted into this different dept. So it is not clear who which faculty will be allowed to continue research.

Re: University of Florida shutting down research in Computer Science department

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can't deny that the department being cut back is a good one. But sometimes there isn't room for all the good departments. I plant 4 tomato plants every spring. In a few weeks I pull up 2 of them, even if they are thriving. There is only so much soil, water and sunlight to go around.

Great point. After all, computer science is a relatively unimportant discipline. It's obviously a waning field. As we've seen in the news, people with CS degrees don't make much money and almost never get rich, so they are unlikely to donate to schools later on in life.

AsI understand it, there are several CS departments in the college. Several tomato plants.

Re: University of Florida shutting down research in Computer Science department

#58

Is this the same University of Florida that did this: Give a 6 year 24 million contract to a coach of a so called amateur sports team ? http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4374311 Is this the same UF that gets a cut of SEC 2.25 billion dollar contract ? http://m.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Journal/Issues/2008/08/2008... ? Yes I think it is. Hmmm I wonder why they have nothing left for cs education.

Affiliated? Yes. Two separate entities though. They do not receive any funding from the University. In fact the UAA has made a profit consistently for quite a while and has returned $6-8 million/year to the University. So, yes the UAA gives ridiculous amounts of money to coaches, but they are making a decent ROI.

Also, the $6-8 million given to the University is after the UAA pays for all of the expenses of the non revenue producing sports teams.

Re: University of Florida shutting down research in Computer Science department

#59
I'm a current UF student, and what the hell?! The presidents of UF and FSU are lobbying the government to allow the universities to increase tuition without limits (ie, without asking the Florida Legislature again), and UF comes out with this? Is this their way of sending a message to the Legislature? "Don't approve our tuition hikes and this will happen"? They're asking for a tuition hike to make UF more "competitive" nationally, but how does eliminating a research department and cutting faculty who are great teachers but not PhD's make you more competitive?

It doesn't!

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