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Jimmy Apples strikes again. https://twitter.com/apples_jimmy/status/1725615804631392637?... If there was any doubt he had insider knowledge, it's gone now.

orrr he tweets out random stuff and this one happened to line up. this has all the precision of a tarot card

This isn't the only thing he's gotten right, just the latest.

Aside from this, You can't drop internal project names or company release dates months and weeks before time without being in the know somehow. Random isn't that good lol.

Re: Sam Altman tweet after being fired

#52
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Not the deepest topic, but: Can someone explain to me why there seems to be such a high correlation between being high on the totem pole and lazy bits of written word? In this case, Sam can't be assed to bother with capital letters. For other people, it's abbreviations or some other unnecessary bit of laziness. I don't get it. In my experience the higher up you are in management the more you do this sort of thing.

He’s not exactly in the age group, but quite a lot of young people have auto-capitalization disabled on their phone. Basically aesthetics. At the end of the day, as time goes on, the methods of communications change as well. It does not exactly correlate one’s intelligence, intent, societal status or whatsoever. Prevalent use of emojis would be the simplest example.

How could disabling auto-capitalization influence aesthetics?

Re: Sam Altman tweet after being fired

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post #42

Not the deepest topic, but: Can someone explain to me why there seems to be such a high correlation between being high on the totem pole and lazy bits of written word? In this case, Sam can't be assed to bother with capital letters. For other people, it's abbreviations or some other unnecessary bit of laziness. I don't get it. In my experience the higher up you are in management the more you do this sort of thing.

It's not uncommon practice that originates from newspapers. Writing all low case is way to make sure that everybody understand the writing is just a draft, not ready for printing, or not final or official correspondence. Editor could not just send it to press without proofreading and editing it.

I disagree. It is either simply lazy or (charitable interpretation) ... lazy.

No journo. or professional writer I know would ever forget to hit the shift key for some sort of weird "convenience". It is harder to write all lower case prose. Hit . + and you are primed to hold left shift for the next character with your left or right small finger (pinkie).

We humans mostly have five digits per hand. Even a single finger "poker" will manage to hit shift too, when appropriate.

Many years ago I used to teach a hand written correction markup used on manuscripts. Delta for delete, triple underline for change of case, the correct way to route clause moves etc. You put the change in the body and a symbol in the left margin for each change. To accommodate these changes you use 1.5 or double space inter line in your draft. You might also allow a slightly larger margin but that is generally optional and probably wasteful. The marginal indicator markers can be a bit "loose" - its hand written so an asterisk and a foot note is always an option for really tricky cases. When it gets too bad, the spike is the final home for the piece (or an open fire).

Your experience of journalism is rather different to mine.

Re: Sam Altman tweet after being fired

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post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He’s not exactly in the age group, but quite a lot of young people have auto-capitalization disabled on their phone. Basically aesthetics. At the end of the day, as time goes on, the methods of communications change as well. It does not exactly correlate one’s intelligence, intent, societal status or whatsoever. Prevalent use of emojis would be the simplest example.

How could disabling auto-capitalization influence aesthetics?

i’ll bite.

it might sound dumb to you, but not capitalizing sentences properly amongst certain groups effectively means you’re not concerned with the optics of being viewed as someone who “doesn’t know grammar”.

it sort’ve displays a certain “I know proper grammar but I don’t really care to prove it to you”.

edit: and as others mention, it can be seen as less formal and friendly as well

don’t shoot the messenger :)

Re: Sam Altman tweet after being fired

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I’ve had a few company’s I’ve dealt with where the ceo writes: name hi, And it really throws me - I’m spending hours ensuring my emails / communication covers all angles and then they reply with this salutation.

Where I come from that means you can adopt a looser style as well, and don't need to bother writing formally with that person. It's considered "friendly". In fact in German it would be really awkward if one person stuck to formal language when the other makes an attempt to be informal - sticking to it is like saying "keep your distance" and could be a little hurtful for the person who tried to be informal. I'm curiou…

About 5 years ago, my CEO emailed me with something like 'yo! can you do me a favor'. Middle management was CCed on the email thread and when I responded something like 'Sure! Happy to help', I was chewed out by my director for being informal and thus disrespectful...

Re: Sam Altman tweet after being fired

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’ve had a few company’s I’ve dealt with where the ceo writes: name hi, And it really throws me - I’m spending hours ensuring my emails / communication covers all angles and then they reply with this salutation.

Where I come from that means you can adopt a looser style as well, and don't need to bother writing formally with that person. It's considered "friendly". In fact in German it would be really awkward if one person stuck to formal language when the other makes an attempt to be informal - sticking to it is like saying "keep your distance" and could be a little hurtful for the person who tried to be informal. I'm curiou…

A mismatch in formality is noticeable too in English, from my experience. It think it's a bit more subtle compared to other languages, as there is no formal "you" (in contrast to "du" versus Sie" in German, "tu" and "vous" in French, "tú" and "usted" in Spanish, "你" and "您" in Mandarin, and examples in other languages).

However, one difference in English is with greetings. If you are coworkers, especially at around the same age and seniority, it feels unnatural to say "Dear ___," versus "Hey ____" or "Hi ____" (experiences may vary based on organizational culture). It's noticeable with texting, too. If you were to use formal punctation and end all texts with a period (such as: "Hi." or "I'm fine."), the texts may be perceived as less friendly (in contrast to: "hi" or "no prob, it's all good").

I believe that informality in English communication is often a signal of how close the relationship is. Though some people speak with others with a high level of formality even in their close relationships (or alternatively, speak informally in nearly all contexts), a change over time from formality to informality is often a sign of growing closeness and trust. Long story short, this plays out the same as you've described the effect in English, at least for personal relationships.

For professional relationships, it depends on the person and the organization. I generally try to roughly mirror the level of formality of the person who I'm speaking with. However, if I'm reporting to a person with higher seniority than me, I do try to have at least a minimum level of formality. Even if a CEO were to send a text in a very friendly and informal way, I would try to be polite but at least semi-formal.

More explicitly, the Korean language makes the different possible levels of speech clearer. This source [1] identifies five to six levels of formality in Korean (Wikipedia identifies a higher seventh level reserved for historical dramas, addressing royalty, and religious texts). So, even if a coworker were to address me with the Korean equivalent of "plain" or "intimate" speech ("heya {name}", all in lower case), I've found it the most comfortable to respond in at least a familiar or polite way ("hey {Name}..." or "Hey {Name}"...).

That way, there is both a sense of respect and a sense that there is an attempt to match the person's level of familiarity. There is then less of a chance that a person might feel uneasy due to either too much familiarity or excessive formality on my part, which makes communications easier.

[1] https://socialsci.libretexts.org/Bookshelves/Anthropology/Li...

Re: Sam Altman tweet after being fired

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post #52
post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He’s not exactly in the age group, but quite a lot of young people have auto-capitalization disabled on their phone. Basically aesthetics. At the end of the day, as time goes on, the methods of communications change as well. It does not exactly correlate one’s intelligence, intent, societal status or whatsoever. Prevalent use of emojis would be the simplest example.

How could disabling auto-capitalization influence aesthetics?

less is more and tone is everything

Re: Sam Altman tweet after being fired

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Not the deepest topic, but: Can someone explain to me why there seems to be such a high correlation between being high on the totem pole and lazy bits of written word? In this case, Sam can't be assed to bother with capital letters. For other people, it's abbreviations or some other unnecessary bit of laziness. I don't get it. In my experience the higher up you are in management the more you do this sort of thing.

I'd guess because they have nothing to prove.

"what are ya gonna do, fire me? lol" - sama

Re: Sam Altman tweet after being fired

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Not the deepest topic, but: Can someone explain to me why there seems to be such a high correlation between being high on the totem pole and lazy bits of written word? In this case, Sam can't be assed to bother with capital letters. For other people, it's abbreviations or some other unnecessary bit of laziness. I don't get it. In my experience the higher up you are in management the more you do this sort of thing.

i see no such correlation

you have been misled by sample bias

people lower down in the org do the same or worse

basically under-35s view punctuation and speaking in complete sentences as boomer artefacts

not my choice just telling it like i see it

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