Google should be forced to spin out Chrome and Android and let each of them charge for defaults.
Why? Just 'cuz Chrome has been successful?
What If Google Wasn't the Default?
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Re: What If Google Wasn't the Default?
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I'll look into You.com. I gave Kagi a shot recently, paid for a month and set it as my default. To be honest, the results weren't good enough for me and I ended up cancelling my subscription. I am willing to pay that much for my search engine, but it has to do better than Google. I use a strict adblocker, so finding what I'm looking for on the Google search results page is actually quite easy for me. I recommend chec…
> I gave Kagi a shot recently, paid for a month and set it as my default. To be honest, the results weren't good enough for me and I ended up cancelling my subscription. I am willing to pay that much for my search engine, but it has to do better than Google. That's surprising to me. I find Kagi's results to be better than Google most of the time. Sometimes they are really exceptional, with searches I thought would be…
I'm glad to hear it works well for others, and I'd like to give it another shot sometime. I use Google to find relevant sources for research, and documentation for coding projects. In my experience, Kagi just wasn't able to keep up.
There are other benefits to Kagi that I do miss though. I liked being able to permanently disclude domains I am not interested in, and to boost the relative importance of others.
Re: What If Google Wasn't the Default?
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> I really wish they would have kept focus on Windows and taken the high road and made it better, more secure, more private Why would they do this? It makes zero sense. There would be zero (or really negative) ROI for doing as you suggest here. They already have a near-monopoly on desktop OSes, and these improvements you want aren't going to change that or improve the profits they get from the Windows business. It wo…
You are 100% correct, I'm just sad that this is the state of modern business practices and mindless focus on profit above all. It would never fly, but I'd much rather see better and safer product than another 20% on Microsofts bottom line. Business people would call me a commie.
I'd rather see people simply switch to a better (and generally free) alternative, but they don't want to do that for some reason... It's like the old saying about a horse and water.
Re: What If Google Wasn't the Default?
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Yes, it also would misaligns their incentives. I like (love) that Apple is NOT in the advertising business and fewer phd engineers obsess about how they can make me click/view more ads. Maybe Kagi proofs that "search" could also be financed by a premium subscription? Or being a system service which is subsidized like Siri? But I think the ad-model is the most easiest/profitable for search so there is always a pull to…
Kagi is still fundraising & most of your subscription fee goes to sourcing results from Google. We don't know yet if it will be a sustainable business model.
Where are they fundraising right now?
Re: What If Google Wasn't the Default?
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> I gave Kagi a shot recently, paid for a month and set it as my default. To be honest, the results weren't good enough for me and I ended up cancelling my subscription. I am willing to pay that much for my search engine, but it has to do better than Google. That's surprising to me. I find Kagi's results to be better than Google most of the time. Sometimes they are really exceptional, with searches I thought would be…
I'm glad to hear it works well for others, and I'd like to give it another shot sometime. I use Google to find relevant sources for research, and documentation for coding projects. In my experience, Kagi just wasn't able to keep up. There are other benefits to Kagi that I do miss though. I liked being able to permanently disclude domains I am not interested in, and to boost the relative importance of others.
When you experienced a bad result, did you do a direct comparison with the equivalent Google search?
I found myself questioning some of Kagi's search results when I first started using it and sometimes thought a search result was of poor quality, but whenever that happened, I did a direct comparison with Google whose result was equally bad.
I've now used Kagi for almost six months and have never found a search where Google provided better quality results. Except for image search.