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You Paid $1k for an iPhone, but Apple Still Controls It

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Re: You Paid $1k for an iPhone, but Apple Still Controls It

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Post by jqpabc123 »

quadrifoliate wrote: post #41
jqpabc123 wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Show us where Apple advertises this and I might believe you.

There is a form of explicit and implicit advertising. Apple advertised implicitly by consistently fulfilling the promise that if anything bad happens to your iPhone, in most cases an Apple Store can fix it. Control is a part of this implicit model. This is not a model I myself like (I prefer the more freewheeling Android ecosystem); but I can appreciate why people respond well to it. To your average person who doesn'…

Control is a part of this implicit model.

And control is money. Apple obviously makes more money by controlling and limiting the consumer's ability to repair the device.

Re: You Paid $1k for an iPhone, but Apple Still Controls It

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Post by LtWorf »

ozyschmozy wrote: post #18
RcouF1uZ4gsC wrote: post #4

This control severely limits the utility of stolen iPhones, which is a good thing for me as an iPhone owner. There are other phones that consumers can choose that don’t have this pairing. But this pairing of parts is one of the reasons people choose and iPhone.

How often does phone theft actually happen? I keep hearing this argument but in my ~15 years of owning non-apple phones and laptops, I've never had one stolen, or heard of anyone getting theirs stolen. Have I just been very lucky?

My friend got an apple laptop stolen.

Only friend that got a phone or computer stolen that I know of.

Re: You Paid $1k for an iPhone, but Apple Still Controls It

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Post by ndsipa_pomu »

vasdae wrote: post #35
ndsipa_pomu wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That seems surprising to me, when surely there's no easy way to steal a phone (iPhone or Android) and not have it completely locked and unusable. I would imagine that cars are eminently more desirable a target to steal as they're often left unattended for hours/days at the side of the road and they're typically worth far more than $1k. It's also relatively easy to attack a car waiting at traffic lights, over-power th…

Pickpocketing is quick and easy, sometimes not even a crime, and even though phones are locked, you can sell the Android phone for pieces. That's not the case for the iphone.

> Pickpocketing is quick and easy, sometimes not even a crime

I find that difficult to believe.

Re: You Paid $1k for an iPhone, but Apple Still Controls It

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Post by lcnPylGDnU4H9OF »

mplewis wrote: post #38
jqpabc123 wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Show us where Apple advertises this and I might believe you.

https://support.apple.com/guide/iphone/use-built-in-privacy-...

Is that an advertisement or a support page?

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Post by elcomet »

gkanai wrote: post #48
makeitdouble wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's interesting you underline the knock off is Chinese, when half of the high quality genuine Apple parts are also Chinese. At this point I'd be more wary of a non Chinese parts for many of the replacements.

There's a significant difference between a Chinese-made Apple OEM part and an aftermarket low-cost Chinese part.

Which is why it makes no sense to say "Chinese" to mean low quality

Re: You Paid $1k for an iPhone, but Apple Still Controls It

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Post by cabirum »

ubermonkey wrote: post #14

Yes. And that's part of what I paid for.

This is a case for post-purchase rationalization. Take an obviously negative trait and spin/distort it in such a way it sounds like an advantage, reinforcing your delusion that you made the right choice.

Same for a single, apple-controlled store, the inability to actually install apps without a store, even deciding what browser engine should everyone use.

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Post by M4v3R »

j-bos wrote: post #27
jaas wrote: post #19

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Because thieves know that all iPhones are locked like this and thus don’t steal them. If they knew that some significant percentage were not locked they would be worth stealing again, and if it’s locked they just throw it in a dumpster. The fact that your phone is locked protects everyone else as well.

Somehow I doubt even a percent of owners would choose to unpair. And if they do for repair purposes, there's no reason they couldn't re pair/register. What am I missing?

Nothing, the argument for pairing the parts is so weak that I’m genuinely surprised to see it here on HN so often.
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