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Lost "Doctor Who" episodes found but owner is reluctant to hand them to BBC

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Re: Lost "Doctor Who" episodes found but owner is reluctant to hand them to BBC

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Post by crooked-v »

fingerlocks wrote: post #50
justrealist wrote: post #46

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The BBC does not have any discretion over who is prosecuted for a crime though. They can give their opinion but it's up to the police. So a public promise doesn't actually hold any weight.

They don’t? In the United States you can’t be arrested and charged with theft without the owner claiming you actually stole something. Is that not the case in the UK? Can you be charged because the DA read about a hypothetical crime in the bews?

You can absolutely be arrested and charged for that in the US. The police just generally don't because failure in court is nigh-guaranteed with an uncooperative key witness.

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Post by 2C64 »

dylan604 wrote: post #27
patmorgan23 wrote: post #21

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Because someone else might want to remember

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They watch it themselves (and sometimes make reaction videos to it). They watch it with their parents. They watch it as part of a class. They study history and watch it. There are so many ways in which this statement is demonstrably false.

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Post by chasil »

I didn't know anything about this; it's quite interesting.

...the infamous arrest of comedian Bob Monkhouse in 1978 has not been forgotten, Franklin suspects: “Monkhouse was a private collector and was accused of pirating videos. He even had some of his archive seized. Sadly people still believe they could have their films confiscated.”

https://www.pressreader.com/uk/daily-mail/20180824/282703342...

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Post by Loughla »

kubiton wrote: post #34
dylan604 wrote: post #27

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Ml training for example. "Generate cartoon in style of"

I don't know why, but my knee-jerk reaction is that this is the worst use of the material.

Why is that? Anyone else with that opinion able to put into words the reason? Because I'm not really sure why I think that, but I do.

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Post by fingerlocks »

crooked-v wrote: post #51
fingerlocks wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They don’t? In the United States you can’t be arrested and charged with theft without the owner claiming you actually stole something. Is that not the case in the UK? Can you be charged because the DA read about a hypothetical crime in the bews?

You can absolutely be arrested and charged for that in the US. The police just generally don't because failure in court is nigh-guaranteed with an uncooperative key witness.

Yeah, sure, you can be arrested for anything or nothing at all. Sorry I wasn’t clear.

Do you have any examples of charges and convictions on theft without a prior claim of deprivation to a good or service from an owner? Or are we just being pedantic?

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Post by maximus-decimus »

walterbell wrote: post #11

Preservers of cultural memory should be rewarded. Canada spent years digitizing classic TV and published the shows on a Youtube channel, then suddenly deleted all the content without notice to archivers, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35716982 . In the absence of social contracts for preservation, we are left with defensive archiving.

There's a Quebec kid tv show "Une grenade avec ca" I really liked when I was a teenager and at some point one of the main actors got prosecuted for possession of child pornography, so they pulled out all the episodes he played in... which is basically every single episode I ever watched.

I understand their decision to not air those, but it still feels like a part of my childhood got erased and I wish I could get a copy of those episodes.

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Post by ethbr1 »

dylan604 wrote: post #27
patmorgan23 wrote: post #21

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Because someone else might want to remember

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Two gems (among many)...

Periscope Films (on YouTube): https://m.youtube.com/@PeriscopeFilm/playlists

Digitized 40-60s era reels. It still amazes me how effectively they presented complex topics then. E.g. mechanical naval gunnery computers: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gwf5mAlI7Ug

And this on-the-ground movie on the Columbia student occupation in 1968: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BUcYLuGiL_s

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Post by dghlsakjg »

dylan604 wrote: post #27
patmorgan23 wrote: post #21

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Because someone else might want to remember

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I was literally just searching for an episode of The Fifth Estate from 1988 a week ago. A current events/documentary show is never going to get remade.

There's plenty of reasons that people watch old shows. Even on streaming services, the biggest shows seem to be older stuff like The Office, Seinfeld, Friends, etc. Seinfeld will never get remade, and Friends and the Office might, but will not in any way reflect the original.

Going to youtube its pretty clear that there is plenty of demand for old shows: Secrets of War, an obscure 90s era cable documentary show has millions of views across the episodes they uploaded.

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