I feel we're entering a 2nd great renaissance of media piracy and torrent sites. Fair streaming services were a great solution. But for a variety of reasons that all has slowly been corrupted and become obtrusive. I've recently cancelled my Netflix account after subscribing for over 12 years. Private torrent sites are reporting a significant increases in active users.
Goodbye Spotify
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#52Liberal Joe Rogan is "questionable"? GMAB.. I mean he's open to questions so... I find it to be socially toxic that anyone expects massive companies to tailor their content to one's narrow sensibilities. Furthermore, the complaints rarely if ever go the other way in terms of platforming middle-of-the road personalities that land on the other side of the line. Though, they could in-volume. Man, was it terrrrible when…
This feels like a disingenuous take on TFA's in-passing reference.
Spotify spending USD$100-$200 million on, say, that particular angertainment professional got a lot of people riled up because a) he's actively, demonstrably harmful, b) they had zero interest in patronising him, let along listening to him, but mostly c) their subscription costs had gone up to cover this indefensible payment.
Like TFA, I get my podcasts elsewhere, partly because the spotify app is unwieldy for music, but just plain user hostile for podcasts - but I'd appreciate a multi-tiered service offering from Spotify where I don't use, and therefore don't pay for, any podcast content from them.
Similar to the different package options for TV services, where live sports were expensive but you could opt out of them.
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#53Music consumption has basically never been in a better place. What Spotify pays artists, and how many employees at Bandcamp get laid off are minor, in the big picture. My music consumption goes something like this: 1) Queue up a known band on Spotify. See what else similar to them Spotify puts into a playlist 2) Listen to the new music, decide what I like or don't like 3) Head over to Bandcamp or Discogs with the stu…
Music has never been in a better place? Do you work for Spotify? Musicians are largely struggling while a few giant corps take all the money. Thats not a good place at all. I think you are conflating “music” with “music consumers”
It's always been like that, just way worse because there were 100x fewer bands and artists even 30 years ago.
>I think you are conflating “music” with “music consumers”
I think you somehow missed the very first sentence of my comment:
>Music consumption has basically never been in a better place.
Re: Goodbye Spotify
#54Liberal Joe Rogan is "questionable"? GMAB.. I mean he's open to questions so... I find it to be socially toxic that anyone expects massive companies to tailor their content to one's narrow sensibilities. Furthermore, the complaints rarely if ever go the other way in terms of platforming middle-of-the road personalities that land on the other side of the line. Though, they could in-volume. Man, was it terrrrible when…
This feels like a disingenuous take on TFA's in-passing reference. Spotify spending USD$100-$200 million on, say, that particular angertainment professional got a lot of people riled up because a) he's actively, demonstrably harmful, b) they had zero interest in patronising him, let along listening to him, but mostly c) their subscription costs had gone up to cover this indefensible payment. Like TFA, I get my podcas…
I was more offended on the idea of buying existing podcasts and putting them behind a paywall, than I was the idea of money being spent on Joe Rogan.
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#55Even though I would like Spotify to pay artists decently, I'll keep paying for it mainly for their recommendations and discovery features. If you only listen to music you already know you like, then sure Bandcamp or whatever is amazing for the artist. But personally, I just launch my "liked" playlist and use their enrich feature to fill in titles. Or use their thematic playlist generations that use a genre but take i…
It doesn’t come cheap, but I can recommend Roon[1] because it allows your music collection to blend between streaming providers (Tidal or Qobuz) and local files.
Their very good recommendation algorithm can expand your horizon and you can buy the music you really like while using the same playback experience (would be nice if they allowed you to buy and download music directly though).
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#56Earlier quoted context omitted.
Tidal pays more for the artist and has a higher quality streaming option if that matters to you. Qobuz is another good artist friendly stream that historically paid the most to artists but it has a bit smaller catalog than Tidal.
Tidal is great for selection and quality, but not usability like Spotify where I can control it from any device. Tidal works on my receiver and Amazon devices. Like many home/IoT services, Spotify uses mDNS to enumerate and announce its peers when they are L3 local but they are also controllable remotely by dialing-home to their API albeit with a slightly longer delay. Spotify is hilarious when playing from the Every…
On a slight tangent, mDNS had turned into an absolute nightmare for me. I must have tried 5 different FOSS Raspberry Pi streaming OSs, none of which did the Spotify cast integration actually work on, until I finally figured out it's because it's using mDNS and my router (despite being purchased in 2023 for $200) didn't support mDNS. There's also a bunch of other services (like Home Assistant) that just assume you have working mDNS and point everything to .local
I finally figured out where the service file was, and changed it to IP, and now it works.
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#57I'm still torrenting music like I did in 2007. If I really enjoy a record, I buy it. When a band is in town, I go see them. I don't get hung up on the morality of piracy anymore. Truth is piracy (for me) provides a better experience than most of the alternatives (Spotify, Netflix, Hulu). Gaming is the one area where the paid alternative is usually better than piracy. (Steam, GOG, itch.io)
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#58I didn’t realise Spotify wasn’t paying less well known artists. That’s actually pretty shit.
I love music. I have a deep utter obsession with music of almost every genre and I don’t think I could go without it. I used to just pirate music (because I was a kid that didn’t really fully understand that that was theft), until Spotify happened, so when I was pirating music artists still weren’t getting paid. Spotify became my default for ease of use, but I suppose they’re a middleman that decides who will get paid, and who won’t.
I’ve also got SoundCloud where I listen to artists who don’t seem to be on Spotify, but SoundCloud seems to have a similar structure around paying artists.
What other platforms are there for listening to music, where the artists actually get the recognition and reward they deserve?
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#59I see this as a very reactionary take, and I see the alternatives to streaming as impractical. Spotify is great, honestly it’s really great, I don’t have the free time the author seems to have to make a sociopolitical statement with my choices in music streaming. For me, music is about the music, and the emotional experience thereof. If you don’t like Spotify, just go ahead and cancel it—you don’t need to write a blog about it. I’m also not one to select my products based on their “one [or two] bad thing[s]”; there are dozens of things that make Spotify excellent from my view.
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#60I see this as a very reactionary take, and I see the alternatives to streaming as impractical. Spotify is great, honestly it’s really great, I don’t have the free time the author seems to have to make a sociopolitical statement with my choices in music streaming. For me, music is about the music, and the emotional experience thereof. If you don’t like Spotify, just go ahead and cancel it—you don’t need to write a blo…
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