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Fedora 39 Released

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Re: Fedora 39 Released

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Post by reisse »

kcb wrote: post #38
reisse wrote: post #33

Dynamic triple buffering for GNOME has been postponed again, fractional scaling is nowhere in sight, but they landed > a new workspace switcher and a much-improved image viewer. What a joke of a product management. Sometimes I envy guys who can rewrite workspace switchers again and again on Red Hat's money.

And still lacking VRR support. All we have is this needlessly drama laden multi-year MR https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/-/merge_requests/1154

Oh, I forgot about that! Thanks for the reminder. And lacking VRR is even more insulting now, since SteamOS has a working implementation for Wayland.

Given how much Valve is doing for desktop Linux, I guess one day SteamOS will be the default distribution.

Re: Fedora 39 Released

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Post by jsiepkes »

phendrenad2 wrote: post #50
reisse wrote: post #33

Dynamic triple buffering for GNOME has been postponed again, fractional scaling is nowhere in sight, but they landed > a new workspace switcher and a much-improved image viewer. What a joke of a product management. Sometimes I envy guys who can rewrite workspace switchers again and again on Red Hat's money.

Even though Linux is open-source, it's not immune to the force of money. There are paying customers for Red Hat, and maybe they don't care about DPI scaling that much.

Modern high-res screens in notebooks are almost unusable with Gnome. You need to enable "Large fonts" under accessibility to make it remotely usable. And these screens are becoming more common. So where do paying Red Hat customers use Gnome for then if it's not on notebooks and desktops? For servers?

Re: Fedora 39 Released

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Post by reisse »

phendrenad2 wrote: post #50
reisse wrote: post #33

Dynamic triple buffering for GNOME has been postponed again, fractional scaling is nowhere in sight, but they landed > a new workspace switcher and a much-improved image viewer. What a joke of a product management. Sometimes I envy guys who can rewrite workspace switchers again and again on Red Hat's money.

Even though Linux is open-source, it's not immune to the force of money. There are paying customers for Red Hat, and maybe they don't care about DPI scaling that much.

I doubt any of Red Hat paying customers are caring about image viewers or other important GNOME improvements in this release.

Re: Fedora 39 Released

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Post by grigio »

reisse wrote: post #33

Dynamic triple buffering for GNOME has been postponed again, fractional scaling is nowhere in sight, but they landed > a new workspace switcher and a much-improved image viewer. What a joke of a product management. Sometimes I envy guys who can rewrite workspace switchers again and again on Red Hat's money.

I can't believe LOL!

Re: Fedora 39 Released

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Post by eVeechu7 »

dilap wrote: post #37
reisse wrote: post #33

Dynamic triple buffering for GNOME has been postponed again, fractional scaling is nowhere in sight, but they landed > a new workspace switcher and a much-improved image viewer. What a joke of a product management. Sometimes I envy guys who can rewrite workspace switchers again and again on Red Hat's money.

Do you envy Sisyphus? Very similar situation, I think.

Sisyphus only has one rock to worry about.

Re: Fedora 39 Released

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Post by vondur »

butz wrote: post #46

KDE needs more attention. Now it is tucked away as a "spin" that does not inspire much confidence, but in some cases KDE provides much better user experience. Time to add all DEs into ISO and allow selecting the one you want during install, and software too. Like in old days of Fedora Core.

The KDE spin from Fedora is really nice. It's pretty much vanilla KDE and is kept up to date with every new release of Fedora. I do agree that it should be one the primary download page as an option.

Re: Fedora 39 Released

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Post by tristan957 »

reisse wrote: post #33

Dynamic triple buffering for GNOME has been postponed again, fractional scaling is nowhere in sight, but they landed > a new workspace switcher and a much-improved image viewer. What a joke of a product management. Sometimes I envy guys who can rewrite workspace switchers again and again on Red Hat's money.

How many people do you think Red Hat pays to work on all projects within the GNOME namespace on their GitLab? There were no Red Hat employees involved in the development of the new image viewer. It was a community effort.

Will you be stepping up to provide resources?

Why are you ignoring all the other work Red Hat did this cycle with regard to things like HDR?

Re: Fedora 39 Released

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Post by tristan957 »

reisse wrote: post #53
phendrenad2 wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even though Linux is open-source, it's not immune to the force of money. There are paying customers for Red Hat, and maybe they don't care about DPI scaling that much.

I doubt any of Red Hat paying customers are caring about image viewers or other important GNOME improvements in this release.

Red Hat didn't work on the image viewer. Why do you keep making comments on things you are uninformed on?

Re: Fedora 39 Released

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Post by yoyohello13 »

reisse wrote: post #33

Dynamic triple buffering for GNOME has been postponed again, fractional scaling is nowhere in sight, but they landed > a new workspace switcher and a much-improved image viewer. What a joke of a product management. Sometimes I envy guys who can rewrite workspace switchers again and again on Red Hat's money.

The amount of back seat dev that happens whenever Gnome does anything is amazing. You have no idea what the challenges are or how the development process works for this project. The workspace switcher could just be some drive by PR, who knows. Tripple buffering and fractional scaling are hard problems. If you don't think so, feel free to show them how it's done and implement it yourself.

Re: Fedora 39 Released

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Post by hospitalJail »

smetj wrote: post #21

Best Linux desktop/laptop distro hands down. Congrats Fedora!

I am ready to declare it the best OS. I've never been more productive since getting Fedora.

0 Forced reboots. With windows, forced reboots were a multi-weekly occurance. No dealing with autosaves and reopening anything.

Its so fast, you click and something pops up. With windows, there seems to be like a 0.2s delay on everything. This adds up.

I think I did some of those linux commands that everyone is afraid of doing. But I did that month 1, and I havent done anything since. I don't care if the rest of the world discovered The Year of Linux Desktop was 2023, but I surely figured it out.

Linux Desktop is ready for the big time.

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