What is even the difference between Tuta and Proton?
Proton does proper email crypto that works with other providers (normal PGP) and tuta does their own thing (not saying Proto is good tho, it's still a horrible web UI and comes with its risks)
Tutanota is now Tuta
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#52I used Tuta for both private and business use for a couple of years. Switched away because of terrible search experience and lack of SMTP and IMAP access. Tuta became understandably a walled garden that my other tools couldn't easily work with. This wasted alot of my time. Nowadays using $normalemailprovider with Thunderbird.
What is $normalemailprovider? I have been looking for an alternative that is more standard, but it seems like only Fastmail is big in this space. The rest are small shops that don't convey a lot of confidence.
i am with migadu for ~6+ years . all Fine.
sometimes some actions (mostly moving mails between folders - like deleting) are slow. But not a show stopper.
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#53I did search for E-Mail provider alternatives recently and came across a blog post by Drew DeVault: https://drewdevault.com/2020/06/19/Mail-service-provider-rec... He used to recommend mailbox.org and migadu. Two questions: 1) Does anyone know why he does not recommend Tuta(nota)? Edit: I missed the footnote > Do they make unfounded claims about security or privacy, or develop techniques which ultimately rely on trus…
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#54I did search for E-Mail provider alternatives recently and came across a blog post by Drew DeVault: https://drewdevault.com/2020/06/19/Mail-service-provider-rec... He used to recommend mailbox.org and migadu. Two questions: 1) Does anyone know why he does not recommend Tuta(nota)? Edit: I missed the footnote > Do they make unfounded claims about security or privacy, or develop techniques which ultimately rely on trus…
He seems to have a pretty clear idea what he is talking about.
I mentioned infomaniak.com already as an Email provider (can bring you own domain). It is also Switzerland. But regarding law enforcement, posteo.de did a pretty decent job. E.g.:
https://posteo-de.translate.goog/site/transparenzbericht_201...
I once saw a long post from posteo with examples for idiot law enforcement trying to get customer data. Sometimes even writing from private emails (e.g. gmail). Without a court order, such requests are not legit.
Re: Tutanota is now Tuta
#55I used Tuta for both private and business use for a couple of years. Switched away because of terrible search experience and lack of SMTP and IMAP access. Tuta became understandably a walled garden that my other tools couldn't easily work with. This wasted alot of my time. Nowadays using $normalemailprovider with Thunderbird.
Same here, the search was horrible and eventually caused me to move away. Using mailbox.org is a much more pleasant experience. Other options: https://www.privacytools.io/privacy-email
Thanks for your feedback. We're planning to re-do the search implementation completely as it needs a major overhaul to quickly search larger mailboxes.
We're constantly improving the service, for instance we've just added unlimited email addresses with your own domain (https://tuta.com/blog/summer-releases-2023) so always happy to hear feedback and how we can meet your needs!
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#56Re: Tutanota is now Tuta
#57I did search for E-Mail provider alternatives recently and came across a blog post by Drew DeVault: https://drewdevault.com/2020/06/19/Mail-service-provider-rec... He used to recommend mailbox.org and migadu. Two questions: 1) Does anyone know why he does not recommend Tuta(nota)? Edit: I missed the footnote > Do they make unfounded claims about security or privacy, or develop techniques which ultimately rely on trus…
I'm a happy (non-German) mailbox.org customer. They are clearly committed to their core offerings and their pricing is fair.
I have previously also used Migadu, but I migrated to mailbox.org. Can't remember why exactly and looking at migadu.com again today, they seem to tick all the boxes for me when it comes to personal email. I remember they had a great UI in general, but in particular the settings UI was fantastic.
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#58Earlier quoted context omitted.
Fastmail is supposed to be good. But you can just buy your own domain with Email hosting. It is free with gandi.net. Or use https://www.infomaniak.com/ Infomaniak also sells email hosting for around 20 Euro per year, they are based in Switzerland. If you have your own domain, just type the domain name as you would buy the domain and if the interface says domain taken, select email hosting (the three dots).
Gandi mailboxes are not free anymore (discussed e.g. here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35080777 ).
C&P from the other thread:
"So, further to recent changes at Gandi, I've just got some more info from support which I've included below. I've purchased domains from Gandi, pre-paying for multiple years of service such that some domains I have don't need renewing until 2027. When I purchased that service the offer was inclusive of 2 mailboxes for the duration of the contract, and now they're planning to remove those inclusive mailboxes and start charging me extra for them from next month.
To me, this sounds like a planned and fully intentional breach of contract."
Sorry, I was not aware that they changed. Currently I don't hold a domain with them. They were always a decent provider. This behavior seems very unfortunate.
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#59Tuta means sweatshirt in Italian :)
And female lady-parts in Hebrew slang (and Arabic?)
It means "raspberry" in Arabic, and in Moroccan dialect at least it's slang for "good looking woman".
Though it does sound like "tota", which in Moroccan dialect again is the childish synonym for penis :))
I guess any short name is bound to have weird meanings in other languages!
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#60Earlier quoted context omitted.
What is $normalemailprovider? I have been looking for an alternative that is more standard, but it seems like only Fastmail is big in this space. The rest are small shops that don't convey a lot of confidence.
Fastmail is supposed to be good. But you can just buy your own domain with Email hosting. It is free with gandi.net. Or use https://www.infomaniak.com/ Infomaniak also sells email hosting for around 20 Euro per year, they are based in Switzerland. If you have your own domain, just type the domain name as you would buy the domain and if the interface says domain taken, select email hosting (the three dots).
Just note that fastmail‘s search is basically useless if you expect Gmail-like search (unless I am missing some sort of trick to get it working). The rest of Fastmail is excellent though.