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Re: The global fight against HIV is at risk

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Post by wannacboatmovie »

fzeroracer wrote: post #47
dudul wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I dont understand the last paragraph. Condoms have been widely used for decades, is there a debate similar to masks?

There is, particularly around the evangelical sector in the US whom have been pushing towards banning all contraceptives (or rather, making them hard to obtain making them defacto banned). It's part of the idea that only moral approach to sex is abstinence or procreation.

Yes I'm sure it's the religious people not the fact that 'creampie' is one of the most popular genres of online pornography, that was virtually nonexistent 20 years ago, and now at the forefront of the zeitgeist.

Re: The global fight against HIV is at risk

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Post by huytersd »

Grazester wrote: post #14
huytersd wrote: post #2

I’m going to be very mad if there is a resurgence in HIV because of the asinine GOP. If people have to be worried again about their next sexual contact (condoms only offer between 70-90% protection against HIV), we will return to a prudish lifestyle again at a time the west can least afford it with falling birth rates.

If a condom doesn't break then it's 100% effective. When a condom breaks you fails in a manner that you will know it failed and then there is PEP.

I think there’s a chance of getting it if the condom rolls/bunches up as well.

Re: The global fight against HIV is at risk

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Post by mnau »

asveikau wrote: post #31
avazhi wrote: post #21

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This is a shocking lack of empathy and understanding of the connectedness of the planet.

Don’t share needles and don’t engage in casual sex don’t seem like a too high bar. There is a lot rape, but Botswana has 25% of population infected and per UNICEF

> While there is increased awareness of HIV in general, comprehensive knowledge of HIV remains low, condom use among sexually active young people is declining, and rates of forced sex and teenage pregnancy are ominously high.

Re: The global fight against HIV is at risk

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Post by stemlord »

dudul wrote: post #49
jksflkjl3jk3 wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you had much casual sex lately? Anecdotally, condom use is down significantly over the last couple decades now that HIV is no longer a death sentence.

Not lately no, been married 12 years. But I don't remember ever hearing about debates as heated as masks around condoms. Yeah there are fringe groups advocating for no birth control and all, but what's really their market share? Doesn't sound similar to the big divide we had a few years ago over masks.

I am a millennial but my understanding is that many gay men scoffed at condom use pre-AIDS, in the 70s, the same way many today scoff at mask use. This is the way it's generally been described by older gay men I know and documentaries and movies. Not to necessarily equate the health risk between the two scenarios, just equating the public sentiment during the beginning stages of a major public health crisis.

It is why from my perspective the gay community at large has an intimate relationship with the phrase "new normal" because it seems like gay men's cultural understanding of what a healthy sex life looks like truly changed more or less permanently since the AIDS epidemic.

Re: The global fight against HIV is at risk

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Post by monlockandkey »

RajT88 wrote: post #34
monlockandkey wrote: post #9

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A prudish lifestyle means marriage instead of promiscuity, abortions will decrease and the birth rate will rise.

Not really. Most abortions are women who already have children. Once upon a time, this meant that most abortions were carried out by married women (marriage itself is less common now). The connection between marriage and abortion isn't what you think it is.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/656516/abortion-distribu...

77% of abortions done by people who are not married and 46% done by women who are not married and not even cohabiting.

Abortion is a symptom of a problem which is the lack of marriage and the highly promiscuous lifestyle that is sold to us. Married people when there is a child on the way (planned or unplanned), there is little to no reason to get an abortion. Sleeping around lifestyle, of course the first thing that happens when pregnant, abortion...

Re: The global fight against HIV is at risk

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Post by huytersd »

avazhi wrote: post #21

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It will become an American problem if Africans stop taking ART and start transmitting the disease for the rest of their lives (a decade or two) rather than the short 30 day window it is now. Couple that with a complete ban of contraceptives advocated by religious Americans/red states and that’s a recipe for disaster.

Re: The global fight against HIV is at risk

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Post by blipvert »

wannacboatmovie wrote: post #51
fzeroracer wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is, particularly around the evangelical sector in the US whom have been pushing towards banning all contraceptives (or rather, making them hard to obtain making them defacto banned). It's part of the idea that only moral approach to sex is abstinence or procreation.

Yes I'm sure it's the religious people not the fact that 'creampie' is one of the most popular genres of online pornography, that was virtually nonexistent 20 years ago, and now at the forefront of the zeitgeist.

Oh come on, look back at the “golden age” of porn - not a condom in sight!

Re: The global fight against HIV is at risk

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Post by HideousKojima »

John23832 wrote: post #50
xienze wrote: post #42

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It has not. Not providing a society the cultivates the families that create and cultivate children has. Providing a system that helps parents raise children rather than be wage slaves makes people want to have kids.

>Providing a system that helps parents raise children rather than be wage slaves makes people want to have kids.

Cool, I take it you'll join my anti-immigration and anti-women-in-the-workforce rally then? It's my simple solution to raise wages so that families are affordable on a single income.

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