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Re: Apple unveils M3, M3 Pro, and M3 Max

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Post by throwaway019254 » Tue, Oct 31, 2023, 12:49 AM UTC

nextos wrote: post #34

scrlk wrote: post #7

Base 14" M3 MBP comes with 8 GB RAM at $1599 USD. That's pretty stingy.

Here in EU, the price I get in the local Apple Store is 2029€ = $2153.

You will need to convince your politicians to lower import duties and taxes.

And that $1599 USD is without taxes. So not the whole US has this price. It was always worth for me to travel to Oregon to have zero tax.

Re: Apple unveils M3, M3 Pro, and M3 Max

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Post by TylerE » Tue, Oct 31, 2023, 12:50 AM UTC

jdalgetty wrote: post #31

osti wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They just updated their macbook air and mac studios and mac pros like 6 months ago? If they updated right now, the previous owners would feel utterly screwed over.

Yup I bought an m2 mbp about 3 weeks ago.

Feels like it's moved super fast. I just bought an M1 Studio earlier this year.

Re: Apple unveils M3, M3 Pro, and M3 Max

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Post by hnburnsy » Tue, Oct 31, 2023, 12:50 AM UTC

>Rendering speeds are now up to 2.5x faster than on the M1 family of chips.1 The CPU performance cores and efficiency cores are 30 percent and 50 percent faster than those in M1, respectively, and the Neural Engine is 60 percent faster than the Neural Engine in the M1 family of chips.

WTH, was Apple sandbagging on the M1?

Re: Apple unveils M3, M3 Pro, and M3 Max

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Post by LeoPanthera » Tue, Oct 31, 2023, 12:50 AM UTC

addaon wrote: post #26

What's with the 36 GB option? The other memory configs (16 GB, 64 GB) are still clean powers of two. Size suggests that they're using ECC-capable memory but using the extra width intended to support ECC for data... but why would this only apply to a single size? Part availability? EDIT: Digging this a bit, it's not (one or more) 72-bit wide busses with 2^32 words as I'd expect as a gray-beard, it's (probably) six 32-…

64 GB chips that failed testing? That's one way to increase yield.

Clive Sinclair did that trick back in the 80s.

Re: Apple unveils M3, M3 Pro, and M3 Max

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Post by Waterluvian » Tue, Oct 31, 2023, 12:50 AM UTC

tanx16 wrote: post #22

scrlk wrote: post #7

Base 14" M3 MBP comes with 8 GB RAM at $1599 USD. That's pretty stingy.

It also supports exactly 1 external display.

Literally the only reason I can’t use my work MacBook for any work that isn’t just testing Safari support. I was even ready to tolerate the terrible ram quantity given it’s so friggin’ insanely fast at javascript.

Re: Apple unveils M3, M3 Pro, and M3 Max

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Post by sosodev » Tue, Oct 31, 2023, 12:50 AM UTC

300bps wrote: post #25

How did Apple become so successful making high-end CPU chips on their own so quickly?

They've been doing this for years. It was just mobile only at first.

Re: Apple unveils M3, M3 Pro, and M3 Max

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Post by perryizgr8 » Tue, Oct 31, 2023, 12:50 AM UTC

> Apple unveils M3, M3 Pro, and M3 Max, the most advanced chips for a PC

Nice! When can I order these most advanced PC chips for my next build? Do they have any kind of upgrade path for existing AMD/Intel users? I don't mind starting over too! Exciting times.

Re: Apple unveils M3, M3 Pro, and M3 Max

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Post by betaby » Tue, Oct 31, 2023, 12:50 AM UTC

nextos wrote: post #34

scrlk wrote: post #7

Base 14" M3 MBP comes with 8 GB RAM at $1599 USD. That's pretty stingy.

Here in EU, the price I get in the local Apple Store is 2029€ = $2153.

USA/CANADA prices are without VAT/sales taxes.

Re: Apple unveils M3, M3 Pro, and M3 Max

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Post by kccoder » Tue, Oct 31, 2023, 12:51 AM UTC

300bps wrote: post #25

How did Apple become so successful making high-end CPU chips on their own so quickly?

They've been designing the A-series chips in iPhone and iPad since the A4 in 2010.

Re: Apple unveils M3, M3 Pro, and M3 Max

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Post by dotnet00 » Tue, Oct 31, 2023, 12:51 AM UTC

jdprgm wrote: post #11

I don't understand why they don't update the entire lineup whenever a new chip comes out, especially if really only swapping the chip in the macbook pro and imac here. On a separate note does anyone have any insight on how unified memory compares to vram in the context of machine learning performance? Considering an H100 with 80GB costs like $30k a maxed out macbook pro with 128gb unified memory for $5k is interestin…

Depends on if you're talking about training performance or inference performance. It's probably a decent deal for inference on such large models, but I doubt it's anywhere near competitive for training. In the 'consumer' space there's also the A6000 with 48GB for ~$4k.