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Re: Replit permanently moves to paid hosting after 7 years of free service

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Post by simpaticoder »

a1o wrote: post #16
simpaticoder wrote: post #11

Rent a $5/mo Linux VPS and be happy. I think more people should do this because what you learn (and you'll learn a lot) is the foundation of everything else. Do this even if you are a programmer used to deploying to sophisitcated CI/CD stacks and k8s. The tight resource constraints (e.g. 1G RAM) are good for you - they make you think, and take care what you run and when you run it. Learn to setup ssh on both ends; le…

Do you have a link to this 5 dollar service you mention? The ones I knew have risen prices considerably.

I use Linode (now Akamai Cloud). Oddly the "Linode 1GB" plan doesn't seem to have a link - you can find it in the shared cpu section under "Nanode 1GB" https://www.linode.com/pricing/#compute-shared.

The impression I get is that most $5 VPSes are basically the same, although I've really only used Linode. They give you some useful free stuff like an external firewall/router and monitoring (with only 24 hours of history, but that's plenty). Their docs and scripts are really good too if, like me, you're only a dilettante sysadmin.

Re: Replit permanently moves to paid hosting after 7 years of free service

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Post by ksenzee »

KomoD wrote: post #41
ksenzee wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The problem isn’t that you’re charging too much, or that there’s anything wrong with Deployments per se. The problem is the rate of change. If I have to keep up with a product that’s changing this often, I might as well self-host.

> I might as well self-host. Then do that, nobody is stopping you.

My point is not “wah wah I have to self-host.” I maintain a CMS backend for a living. I know how to host a website. I’m just saying that this transition has been made particularly annoying for the hobbyists being left behind, because it’s costing not only money but also time. There’s no “just let me pay for the existing service” option. It’s like an acqui-hire where they shut the service down instead of just keeping it running and taking people’s money.

Re: Replit permanently moves to paid hosting after 7 years of free service

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Post by wutwutwat »

> On platforms such as DigitalOcean and AWS, they can be way cheaper.

Then immediately follows with specs and prices:

> Replit.com - $6.40/month

> 2.199GHz/1GB RAM/10GB transfer

vs

> DigitalOcean.com - $6.00/month

> 2.494GHz/1GB RAM/1TB transfer

EDIT: I originally misread 10GB as 10TB - I'll still maintain that it likely doesn't matter. It's a managed VM where deployments are handled for you, for $0.40 more, and if the author is burning through 10GB of bandwidth monthly on hobby VMs I'd be surprised.

Re: Replit permanently moves to paid hosting after 7 years of free service

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Post by ksenzee »

sorenrood wrote: post #45
ksenzee wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The problem isn’t that you’re charging too much, or that there’s anything wrong with Deployments per se. The problem is the rate of change. If I have to keep up with a product that’s changing this often, I might as well self-host.

It might not be clear from this post, but nothing is changing (w/ deployments/always on/repl.co hosting) until January 1st, 2024.

Right, I did see that. I get to pick any evening I want during the next ten weeks to do my futzing with the thing I was hoping to pay to leave alone in perpetuity.

Re: Replit permanently moves to paid hosting after 7 years of free service

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Post by adamparsons »

simpaticoder wrote: post #43
humbleharbinger wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I went this route and got taken over by hackers multiples times. It was very worth it. I got taken over by hackers because my password for ssh was "mars". Me and my little brother were sharing it and wanted an easy password (yeah we have ssh keys now). Anyways, we both learnt a lot (htop tmux etc) . I'm always jealous that he got to learn everything earlier than me. But if he's not better than me then I consider myse…

>I got taken over by hackers I'm a little sad I never was. I started with the Linode "hardening linux guide" and so had a firewall and disabled ssh passwords from day 1. I still have fun looking at the failed attempts on 22 and 443. My server gets so many weird requests, and they used to crash the server. A few iterations and that stopped happening. Oh, another thing that's worth learning: how to acquire and refresh…

I thought I had been once, and got a very scary email that came from my own domain, claiming to have gotten into my things, and I fully assumed it was the VPS that got hacked. After calming down and raiding the shit out of everything I realized it was just plain old domain spoofing. Both disappointing and terrifying at the same time!

Re: Replit permanently moves to paid hosting after 7 years of free service

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Post by Shekelphile »

LapsangGuzzler wrote: post #49
mdale wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I remember an operations incident where we had to quickly pay a previously "free" service that had recently switched their model breaking the scale up of nodes in our system. Did the developer screw up by: 1) not creating a local system for hosting docker images (would detail the project timeline); 2) not well documenting this dependency for operations team before their departure? 3) his/her Manager did not catch thi…

I think that relying on a free service in a production environment that could cause an outage is a really, really bad idea because you have no SLA or relationship with the vendor. In that sense, you are very much getting what you paid for.

It's not like paid services haven't done tons of rugpulls and unannounced changes over the last few years.

Re: Replit permanently moves to paid hosting after 7 years of free service

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Post by semiquaver »

wutwutwat wrote: post #53

> On platforms such as DigitalOcean and AWS, they can be way cheaper. Then immediately follows with specs and prices: > Replit.com - $6.40/month > 2.199GHz/1GB RAM/10GB transfer vs > DigitalOcean.com - $6.00/month > 2.494GHz/1GB RAM/1TB transfer EDIT: I originally misread 10GB as 10TB - I'll still maintain that it likely doesn't matter. It's a managed VM where deployments are handled for you, for $0.40 more, and if t…

> 9TB more of bandwidth per month

I think you mixed up your units. 1TB — 10GB == 990GB. In terms of transfer cost (at least according to those numbers, which I have not verified) DO is orders of magnitude less expensive per GB. Surely that deserves “way cheaper”?

Re: Replit permanently moves to paid hosting after 7 years of free service

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Post by boguscoder »

wutwutwat wrote: post #53

> On platforms such as DigitalOcean and AWS, they can be way cheaper. Then immediately follows with specs and prices: > Replit.com - $6.40/month > 2.199GHz/1GB RAM/10GB transfer vs > DigitalOcean.com - $6.00/month > 2.494GHz/1GB RAM/1TB transfer EDIT: I originally misread 10GB as 10TB - I'll still maintain that it likely doesn't matter. It's a managed VM where deployments are handled for you, for $0.40 more, and if t…

Not commenting on price but have you confused 10GB with 10 TB or am I reading everything wrong

Re: Replit permanently moves to paid hosting after 7 years of free service

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Post by mksreddy »

wutwutwat wrote: post #53

> On platforms such as DigitalOcean and AWS, they can be way cheaper. Then immediately follows with specs and prices: > Replit.com - $6.40/month > 2.199GHz/1GB RAM/10GB transfer vs > DigitalOcean.com - $6.00/month > 2.494GHz/1GB RAM/1TB transfer EDIT: I originally misread 10GB as 10TB - I'll still maintain that it likely doesn't matter. It's a managed VM where deployments are handled for you, for $0.40 more, and if t…

I didn’t read the article but your numbers seem to compare 1GB with 10TB.
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