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Ditch the glass: It's time to bring back less-fragile plastic smartphones

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Re: Ditch the glass: It's time to bring back less-fragile plastic smartphones

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This is the main reason I haven't switched to IPhone. Being able to drop my phone whenever I want without worrying about damage is too big a pro.

Being able to blindly fumble for it in the dark is essential.

And the point of a phone is to be a mobile computer. A bulky phone case kind of defeats that point.

Re: Ditch the glass: It's time to bring back less-fragile plastic smartphones

#52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Exactly. Why make more durable phones when you can make an extra $30 by selling a case, too?

A transparent TPU case costs $1 on aliexpress, with many phones it's included for free.

Yeah, I get it. I was mostly joking, but a few things:

I strongly suspect most people buy either the official case from the manufacturer or maybe they go to Amazon or buy one from their local store (Best Buy, Verizon, etc.). They are high markup items and thus readily available in places people shop already.

I find secondary markets that are essentially universal interesting. Imagine selling a TV, but not including a remote control, that seems absurd. What I strongly suspect is happening here is that the market does not favor phones that don't need cases because people want to buy cases. When you're talking about toting around a generic black rectangle everyone else has, there is a desire to make it unique and expressive through the case. I think even with plastic phones, cases would still sell.

Re: Ditch the glass: It's time to bring back less-fragile plastic smartphones

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My shiny new Pixel 8 just fell off a table after 1 hour that I left it there. It didn't vibrate and I didn't move the table or anything like that. Glass phones are so slippery that they take a life of their own when placed on a flat, smooth surface. I miss plastic phones.

This is the biggest concern for glass phones. The coefficient of friction of gorilla glass seems negative at times, especially as so many other surfaces we're around are textureless.

> coefficient of friction of gorilla glass seems negative

Wow.

Re: Ditch the glass: It's time to bring back less-fragile plastic smartphones

#55

It always bothered me that manufacturers use an expensive design just for the users to hide it in a case. Almost 20 years ago there were phones with exchangable bodies. That was ideal, and I wish Apple would offer something like that. An alternative could be a plastic screen on the phone, as many people are using tempered-glass protectors anyway. One you have a glass protector, it shouldn't make any difference whethe…

Personally I never use a case on my iPhone precisely because I want to enjoy the premium feel. I don't know if I'm luckier than the average person, but I've never broken or seriously damaged a phone by dropping it (and I have dropped my phone on various occasions). Especially with modern iPhones, they really seem pretty robust. The most fragile part is the screen, and that's not covered anyway.

Same here

Re: Ditch the glass: It's time to bring back less-fragile plastic smartphones

#56

It always bothered me that manufacturers use an expensive design just for the users to hide it in a case. Almost 20 years ago there were phones with exchangable bodies. That was ideal, and I wish Apple would offer something like that. An alternative could be a plastic screen on the phone, as many people are using tempered-glass protectors anyway. One you have a glass protector, it shouldn't make any difference whethe…

For me a smartphone is a tool not a fashion statement. I remember when smartphones were new people showed them off but I don't see that nowadays.

Re: Ditch the glass: It's time to bring back less-fragile plastic smartphones

#58

It always bothered me that manufacturers use an expensive design just for the users to hide it in a case. Almost 20 years ago there were phones with exchangable bodies. That was ideal, and I wish Apple would offer something like that. An alternative could be a plastic screen on the phone, as many people are using tempered-glass protectors anyway. One you have a glass protector, it shouldn't make any difference whethe…

Personally I never use a case on my iPhone precisely because I want to enjoy the premium feel. I don't know if I'm luckier than the average person, but I've never broken or seriously damaged a phone by dropping it (and I have dropped my phone on various occasions). Especially with modern iPhones, they really seem pretty robust. The most fragile part is the screen, and that's not covered anyway.

I use a spigen case with a tempered glass screen protector. Its a level of safety that I consider critical. Wearing shorts, go to sit in a small car, slippery small phone falls out. Leave phone on end table, toddler throws it. Fall off bicycle, etc

Re: Ditch the glass: It's time to bring back less-fragile plastic smartphones

#59

This argument would've made sense a decade ago. But smart phones are an established product line where lots of experiments have already happened. Including using cheaper, more robust materials. The outcome ? People just think your phone is cheap and don't buy it.

"Tried that, didn't work"

https://world.hey.com/dhh/we-tried-that-didn-t-work-d9c42fe1

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