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Free IRS-run tax filing pilot to be available in 13 states

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Re: Free IRS-run tax filing pilot to be available in 13 states

#51
One thing I really want to see is an official form where if you answer all the questions, to the best of your knowledge correctly, protects you from liability for incorrectly filing your taxes.

End of the day with TurboTax and co, you, as expected, get a "not our system, not our problem" type response when dealing with the post-filing ramifications.

There seems to generally be a lot of "I'm not sure if I did it right" anxiety in the general population.

Re: Free IRS-run tax filing pilot to be available in 13 states

#52
post #15

If an entire industry can be killed by a public service, it probably didn't deserve to exist in the first place.

I disagree. If anything, this will compel the tax preparation software companies to get even better than before, and offer an increased value proposition. Competition benefits the consumer, and for a long while there's been limited, mostly fixed competition (via Brand awareness mostly). FreeTaxUSA is amazing, and cheap, but it does not yet have the brand power the incumbents do. It's unlikely the IRS offering will be…

Same logic for health care?

Re: Free IRS-run tax filing pilot to be available in 13 states

#54
post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I disagree. If anything, this will compel the tax preparation software companies to get even better than before, and offer an increased value proposition. Competition benefits the consumer, and for a long while there's been limited, mostly fixed competition (via Brand awareness mostly). FreeTaxUSA is amazing, and cheap, but it does not yet have the brand power the incumbents do. It's unlikely the IRS offering will be…

This whole thing reads like insanity to me lol, I live & work as a contractor in the UK and I'm taxed directly through PAYE on earnings. Beyond that I just file my tax return through the Gov website.

The US has a long history of tax credits and deductions that people finagle to pay as close to their actual tax obligation as possible. (ie. if you do not do this, then you are quite literally paying more than your actual obligation according to the tax code).

The government isn't aware of your donations or losses, or whatever. So you have to tell them about it. Tax preparation software, historically, was designed to make this process easier by prompting you for all sorts of details you may have forgotten or were un-aware of. In essence, the software was supposed to replace a paid tax professional.

Today, most people use Standard Deduction since it was raised so high by the Trump Administration, and the need for credits and deductions has been greatly diminished. However, the need is still there for many folks, and not all tax filings are simple.

The nirvana for tax filing would be a single page online that disputes any facts the IRS already knows (such as informing them about donations or the like). But, our tax code itself needs to be vastly reformed and simplified before that can become a reality.

Re: Free IRS-run tax filing pilot to be available in 13 states

#55

If an entire industry can be killed by a public service, it probably didn't deserve to exist in the first place.

Only the free'ish customers (eg: Easy 1040) will care - and they were low profit to companies like Intuit, etc anyways.

All other taxpayers will continue to use systems that ideally maximize deductions as government continues to tax endlessly.

Re: Free IRS-run tax filing pilot to be available in 13 states

#56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Some businesses only exist due to government failure. The solution is to fix the government, not preserve a middleman asking for their cut.

Completely agree that fixing the government is the real solution, but until that is done, why shouldn't private companies be able to produce (optional) tools that make filing easier?

The comment you originally replied to didn’t say that.

Re: Free IRS-run tax filing pilot to be available in 13 states

#57
Declaring taxes in Brazil is free, but it's hard work (if you dabble with stocks, for instance). For 1/5 of the value of the minimum wage you can hire a accountant that does it for you. I think the service is worth it's price. All i have to do is send them a bunch of documents and they make sense out of it.

Re: Free IRS-run tax filing pilot to be available in 13 states

#58

Before everyone gets too excited: This will probably only apply to simple tax situations: If you have more than these, you might not be able use it: #Income reporting W-2 wage income Social Security and railroad retirement income Unemployment compensation Interest of $1,500 or less #Credits Earned Income Tax Credit Child Tax Credit Credit for Other Dependents #Deductions Standard deduction Student loan interest Educa…

On the other hand, that's a whole lot of people -- probably almost everyone who is not a homeowner, and quite a few who are.
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