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Re: Anti-Anti-Adblocker uBlock filter to get rid of the annoying YouTube message

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Post by brucethemoose2 »

_huayra_ wrote: post #14

Maybe it's just A/B testing, but I got the "3 strikes and no more video playback" thing, which this DOM element blocking doesn't work around it seems :( After years of procrastinating, I'm finally gonna get around to setting up a basic homelab to run pihole. Thanks, youtube execs and bean counters, for kicking my lazy ass into gear on this! In a way, I kinda wish that ads worked as well as youtube suggestions. If one…

This sounds like Valve's "piracy is a service problem" ethos, butvfor ads, where YouTube is crossing the threshold of making the ads so inconvenient their efforts will be counterproductive (but not quantifiably counterproductive to bean counters... Yet.)

Re: Anti-Anti-Adblocker uBlock filter to get rid of the annoying YouTube message

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Post by idonotknowwhy »

paulmd wrote: post #25

It’s funny to look back on all the people who were doing the “see, the world didn’t fall apart just because apple had to allow sideloading” over the last month. Like the law didn’t even come into effect yet and google is already flexing their monopoly power / browser monoculture, but people think that just because the internet didn’t explosively destruct overnight that everything is gonna be just fine. See also, the…

We'll end up with a Firefox add on to bypass this. And failing that, a piratebay of YouTube videos

Re: Anti-Anti-Adblocker uBlock filter to get rid of the annoying YouTube message

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Post by aninteger »

giggyhack wrote: post #40
nickthegreek wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I believe this is what you are looking for: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37873749 But I also recommend purchasing YouTube Premium if you watch a decent amount. I find it to be a great value.

Also, YT Premium is free with Google Fi phones and other things

This is news to me and I don't think this is true... or it's maybe hidden away somewhere. I am a Fi subscriber using a Google Pixel phone but YouTube premium is still $13.99/month.

Re: Anti-Anti-Adblocker uBlock filter to get rid of the annoying YouTube message

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Post by lukeify »

Deprogrammer9 wrote: post #24

Pi-hole FTW https://pi-hole.net/ H4CK 7H3 P14N37

I will never understand why people continue to spam PiHole as a solution to blocking the ads of services that stream their ads from the same domain (as YouTube does).

Presumably people that _actually run_ PiHole instances (like myself) will know this, which makes me wonder what demographic is making this appear as a valid suggestion.

Re: Anti-Anti-Adblocker uBlock filter to get rid of the annoying YouTube message

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Post by silenced_trope »

m4jor wrote: post #3

If you have a VPN with a Ukraine location, you can set it to there and purchase YouTube Premium for ~$2.70/month. That's what I just ended up doing. I use Mullvad as my vpn provider.

do you have to keep using the VPN after doing this?

Can i just use proton vpn to make the purchase at that price point?

Or do I need to create a separate google account, and then keep accessing YT while using a VPN with Ukraine location?

Re: Anti-Anti-Adblocker uBlock filter to get rid of the annoying YouTube message

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Post by francislavoie »

NietTim wrote: post #29
m4jor wrote: post #3

If you have a VPN with a Ukraine location, you can set it to there and purchase YouTube Premium for ~$2.70/month. That's what I just ended up doing. I use Mullvad as my vpn provider.

Even if it was 10 cents in some other country, I'll never pay a single cent to google, they don't need and most of all don't deserve my money.

Premium actually gives more money to creators you watch on YouTube than ads do. It's win-win IMO. Save yourself time, give them more money. Also comes with YouTube Music which is quite good (arguably worse than Google Play Music was but eh)

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Post by losteric »

serf wrote: post #12
kaelinl wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This, in turn, will spawn user scripts which work around the detection. Any client-side solution will be an arms race between Google and user script/adblock devs. The only real way to prevent it is to withhold the video stream from the CDN until the client has streamed the full ad and/or bake it into the video stream. My impression is that Twitch does this for its live streams (although not VODs).

yeah. given that in-stream ads still have blocking/ignoring methods I think that if this arms race keeps going that ultimately the data (video, whatever) is going to be stuffed behind some hard authentication barrier of some sort -- and then traditional piracy methods will take over like single-user-rebroadcast/etc.

I look forward to my browser-based TiVo, buffering videos to ship over ads just like in the 00s... TV started as advertising channels, it's not surprising YouTube converges towards the cesspool of cable TV.

Re: Anti-Anti-Adblocker uBlock filter to get rid of the annoying YouTube message

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Post by silenced_trope »

woudsma wrote: post #20

Brave browser works quite well to block YouTube ads, I’ve used it for a couple of years now and it blocks ads from most sites pretty good.

Brave is what I'm using, but I must have gotten put into the A/B group since I now see the blocker.

Changing the shield setting to "aggressive" hasn't beaten the block.

But I've heard from others that they use Brave with "standard" settings and still don't see the block. That makes me think they aren't in the A/B group and NOT that Brave has found a way to adequately block it.

Re: Anti-Anti-Adblocker uBlock filter to get rid of the annoying YouTube message

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Post by brucethemoose2 »

kaelinl wrote: post #8
dylan604 wrote: post #2

This is nice and all for now while YouTube allows dismissal of the warning. However, YouTube could go nuclear and just not allow any video to play at all if an ad blocker is detected. No DOM element removal will solve that. I'm not sure if that qualifies as scorched earth on YT's part, but it is an option.

This, in turn, will spawn user scripts which work around the detection. Any client-side solution will be an arms race between Google and user script/adblock devs. The only real way to prevent it is to withhold the video stream from the CDN until the client has streamed the full ad and/or bake it into the video stream. My impression is that Twitch does this for its live streams (although not VODs).

Another option is to require Chrome for playback outside of authenticated apps, and lock Chrome down.

TBH baking it into the video stream is probably the easiest path. The whole video doesn't have to be re-encoded if the ad is spliced in. This is a "soft lockdown" since the ad can theoretically be manually skipped by the user, but its probably good enough.

Re: Anti-Anti-Adblocker uBlock filter to get rid of the annoying YouTube message

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Post by Phelinofist »

wedernoch wrote: post #6
dylan604 wrote: post #2

This is nice and all for now while YouTube allows dismissal of the warning. However, YouTube could go nuclear and just not allow any video to play at all if an ad blocker is detected. No DOM element removal will solve that. I'm not sure if that qualifies as scorched earth on YT's part, but it is an option.

YouTube already does exatly this for me. If uBlock origin is active it loads the base site, but all video tiles are just grey squares and the video titles below are just grey bars.

I had that a few weeks ago, but that was fixed by a uBlock update (I think)
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