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First word discovered in unopened Herculaneum scroll by CS student

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Re: First word discovered in unopened Herculaneum scroll by CS student

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It's just a reference to making a boring, pervasive part of culture. Please feel free to buy those translations at any book company you feel like.

Sorry, I'm just cranky this morning.

I hope it's also true that you're cranky just this morning

Re: First word discovered in unopened Herculaneum scroll by CS student

#52

I wrote this for a different community (filled with semiliterate sophists), but this is absolutely huge and could upend huge swathes of understanding about the last two thousand years. You can avoid the longform essay below if you want. The short of it is there are several potentially common works possibly in the library that could directly prove or disprove what is found in the New Testament and the predicates of Ra…

Comments like this are why I read HN.

Re: First word discovered in unopened Herculaneum scroll by CS student

#53

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It's likely somehow a reference to the Emperor. Purple cloth was extremely rare and expensive, and it was the colour worn by the Emperors. Indeed, it eventually became a capital crime for people outside the Emperor's family to wear it. I don't know if that was yet true at the time of Vesuvius, although Wikipedia claims Caligula may have had someone killed for wearing purple.

The other word visible is "oino", wine. Wine can be described as purple.

wine stains are decidedly more purple than the wine they came from too.

Re: First word discovered in unopened Herculaneum scroll by CS student

#55

I wrote this for a different community (filled with semiliterate sophists), but this is absolutely huge and could upend huge swathes of understanding about the last two thousand years. You can avoid the longform essay below if you want. The short of it is there are several potentially common works possibly in the library that could directly prove or disprove what is found in the New Testament and the predicates of Ra…

I mean, I admire your optimism that historical texts will somehow shake the foundations of religious institutions. However, speaking as someone who lives in Utah, among folks who base their entire belief system on the ramblings of a 19th century scam artist and, I kid you not, magic plates left by the Ancient Egyptians in Illinois.. I think evidence counter to Judeo-Christian belief systems will change precisely nothing.

On the bright side, it will be really fascinating to those of us who like history. We might learn a thing or two from these ancient texts, so there's certainly a silver lining.

Re: First word discovered in unopened Herculaneum scroll by CS student

#56

I recently saw a wonderful youtube video on this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_L1oN8y7Bs Title: Herculaneum scrolls: A 20-year journey to read the unreadable it goes a little bit into the technology of how this was done, deep learning finally cracked the code. They had the scans for a decade but it took ML training to be able to identify which parts were paper and which parts were the ink on top. This had been d…

This is highly misleading. Deep learning was not what did the discovery, the find was handmade. They're trying to make a deep learning model do what was done by hand here, but so far they haven't had success in it finding actual letters.

Re: First word discovered in unopened Herculaneum scroll by CS student

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> $700k is a life changing amount of money Probably ~half of that will go to taxes?

Not sure why this is downvoted. Yes, in California half will go to taxes and the rest is enough for a downpayment on a shack. Hardly life changing.

Pretty damn life changing, actually, for the vast majority of even gasp Californians.

Re: First word discovered in unopened Herculaneum scroll by CS student

#59

>Shortly after that, another contestant, Youssef Nader, independently discovered the same word in the same area, with even clearer results — winning the second place prize of $10,000. That's what u get for optimising your code

I thought the same. He had the better results, but too late.

If quality is a factor, they should have withheld the prize for a reasonable time (a day?) in case someone posts a better result.

Re: First word discovered in unopened Herculaneum scroll by CS student

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So this is just the very begining? Will they be able to decypher whole docs? I guess you wouldn't have written all that otherwise! Anyway, if there's religion involved, I doubt any revelation will shake anything.

That's true of zealots, but growing the religion anywhere where literate people are will become exceptionally difficult if the myth of Jesus the Christ turns out to be, say, a cipher of the re-execution of Alexandros I, the son of Herod the Great and Mariamne I, with contemporary first-party proofs untouched by time. Sure, there'll be dinosaurs-are-just-a-test-of-faith types, but the explanation of Christianity as a…

How does this theory reconcile the existence and growth of Scientology or Mormonism? Or hell, the recent rise of QAnon?
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