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Kevin McCarthy ousted as speaker in Republican-led House

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Re: Kevin McCarthy ousted as speaker in Republican-led House

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With the Republicans in disarray and the Democrats fielding Joe Biden, it seems like a good time for a 3rd party candidate for the 2024 election. Possibly the most realistic context for an actual shot at a 3rd party presidency that I've ever seen.

Yeah, who would possibly vote for Joe Biden—a successful, stable, and reliable president?

Re: Kevin McCarthy ousted as speaker in Republican-led House

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With the Republicans in disarray and the Democrats fielding Joe Biden, it seems like a good time for a 3rd party candidate for the 2024 election. Possibly the most realistic context for an actual shot at a 3rd party presidency that I've ever seen.

Americans will never vote a 3rd party in mass. _Everything_ is built on "us vs them", a third party would confuse people too much.

I agree. But both parties also actively obstruct third party candidates from appearing on states' ballots. For example: https://apnews.com/cbd7947a020a1c5983a69e804ce3a5f8

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Welcome to the clown show. 15 ballots in January for this. Republicans need to get their house in order. Its embarrassing. Or, at least, it should be. First time in history the Speaker’s been ejected like this.

Politics is a clown show for me period - both sides. I like the chaos. The government that governs best is the one that governs least - so I’m always rooting for shutdowns, gridlock, automatic spending cuts, etc.

Too cool for civilization?

Re: Kevin McCarthy ousted as speaker in Republican-led House

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s a representative government, so in a way, we’re all clowns here.

Only those who voted for the morons that can't keep a government actually running.

To be fair, albeit not charitable, those are the only people getting what they voted for.

Re: Kevin McCarthy ousted as speaker in Republican-led House

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Wasn't Gaetz the one that took underage girls across state lines? Is this the guy Republican's want to follow?

There wasn't enough evidence to bring any charges. Apparently, the witnesses weren't credible enough. Doesn't mean he didn't do it, but doesn't mean he did.

He was let go based on his political position. The Venmo transactions look more than a little incriminating: https://www.thedailybeast.com/gaetz-paid-accused-sex-traffic...

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The anti-NATO pro-Russian wing of the Republican party becoming increasingly dominant sends a worrying message across the Atlantic especially to the Baltic countries. Honestly at this point I don't see any other option than the Baltic countries developing nuclear weapons.

Yeah, from an American perspective, I wouldn't take comfort in continued support from the US to save Ukraine and others. There's a good chance funding will dry up in 45 days.

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Ordinary political articles like this one are off-topic for HN. Please see https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html.

Some political overlap can be ok, but for an article to be a good HN submission, the high-order bit needs to be intellectual curiosity.

In case anyone wants more explanation, I've written extensively about how we moderate political stories on HN: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&so....

Edit: Here are a couple examples:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22902490 (April 2020)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21607844 (Nov 2019)

and some related points:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23959679 (July 2020)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17014869 (May 2018)

Re: Kevin McCarthy ousted as speaker in Republican-led House

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Ordinary political articles like this one are off-topic for HN. Please see https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html . Some political overlap can be ok, but for an article to be a good HN submission, the high-order bit needs to be intellectual curiosity. In case anyone wants more explanation, I've written extensively about how we moderate political stories on HN: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&pr…

OK, I will keep this in mind, however what's different about this particular political story is that it's also extremely historic, nothing like this has ever occurred in the history of the US and this is the first speaker to ever be removed in this way; at the very least this kind of instability can have impacts on things like financial markets. I would not share a simply political story like how Joe Biden is doing in the polls are something, that's clearly a stupid story.

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Ordinary political articles like this one are off-topic for HN. Please see https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html . Some political overlap can be ok, but for an article to be a good HN submission, the high-order bit needs to be intellectual curiosity. In case anyone wants more explanation, I've written extensively about how we moderate political stories on HN: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&pr…

OK, I will keep this in mind, however what's different about this particular political story is that it's also extremely historic, nothing like this has ever occurred in the history of the US and this is the first speaker to ever be removed in this way; at the very least this kind of instability can have impacts on things like financial markets. I would not share a simply political story like how Joe Biden is doing i…

I'd say it's "historic" but it's not important. It will roil markets less than a shutdown would, and that story would not be particularly HN-worthy either.

Sometimes I wish there was a way to designate some posts "off topic" but still be visible on the front page -- like a topical Jubilee Day. I'm genuinely interested in what some of the HN crowd think about (some of) the non-tech, non-intellectually-curious stuff that goes on in the world.

But I suspect that we'd all just turn out to be dopey ignoramuses, opining well beyond our knowledge, and the discussion would devolve into the same canned narrative crap that we see everywhere else.

HN probably has nothing to contribute to the discussion, and policing that line through downvotes and flagging is almost certainly the prophylaxis that keeps the infection at bay. Alas.

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Ordinary political articles like this one are off-topic for HN. Please see https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html . Some political overlap can be ok, but for an article to be a good HN submission, the high-order bit needs to be intellectual curiosity. In case anyone wants more explanation, I've written extensively about how we moderate political stories on HN: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&pr…

OK, I will keep this in mind, however what's different about this particular political story is that it's also extremely historic, nothing like this has ever occurred in the history of the US and this is the first speaker to ever be removed in this way; at the very least this kind of instability can have impacts on things like financial markets. I would not share a simply political story like how Joe Biden is doing i…

I hear you, but I don't think it's possible for an HN thread about it not to just disintegrate into partisan bits, and nasty ones at that.

(btw, if you emailed recently, I'm sorry I haven't had a chance to answer yet - it's just the inbox doing its brutal thing. if that wasn't you, please ignore.)

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