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Re: Python 3.12

#51
post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think political advocacy belongs in an announcement of a Python version.

I don't think it's your authority to say what should or shouldn't belong in a release you have no contribution to!

Careful not to fall into a fallacious argument...

https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_authority

Re: Python 3.12

#52
post #5

Everything aside, I enjoyed the "And now for something completely different" part.

I don't think political advocacy belongs in an announcement of a Python version.

Wait until you have to use something like npm or yarn... and try to read the hidden log messages between the emojis, the "support X or Y" messages, the jobs search, and more.

Re: Python 3.12

#53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think political advocacy belongs in an announcement of a Python version.

For people who downvote Bostonian for his comment, how would you like it if that announcement, say, contained an abortion-related proclamation that you don't agree with? "Share our food, Share our homes and Share our countries" is quite a big demand on everyone else. I am certainly not willing to do so without limit and without regard to context (e.g. the Muslim gang war that flared up in Sweden).

>"Share our food, Share our homes and Share our countries" is quite a big demand on everyone else. I am certainly not willing to do so without limit and without regard to context

Neither are a lot of the people who initially advocated for the policies, ie NYC, as we're finding out.

Immigration is great. Unfettered illegal immigration is not. It puts pressure on social infrastructure and causes social strife. Look at us here in Canada. Most of our immigration is legal, and yet our wealth-per-person is shrinking because we can't build infrastructure fast enough to keep up with population growth.

Re: Python 3.12

#55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think political advocacy belongs in an announcement of a Python version.

For people who downvote Bostonian for his comment, how would you like it if that announcement, say, contained an abortion-related proclamation that you don't agree with? "Share our food, Share our homes and Share our countries" is quite a big demand on everyone else. I am certainly not willing to do so without limit and without regard to context (e.g. the Muslim gang war that flared up in Sweden).

Sad, I guess in 2023 sharing isn't caring.

It's a statement about immigrants being people, that the hateful stories we tell about them are false that we have responsibility to them as fellow humans. It advocates for no specific political action, you can hold these beliefs and still be against immigration for whatever reason.

Re: Python 3.12

#56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think political advocacy belongs in an announcement of a Python version.

For people who downvote Bostonian for his comment, how would you like it if that announcement, say, contained an abortion-related proclamation that you don't agree with? "Share our food, Share our homes and Share our countries" is quite a big demand on everyone else. I am certainly not willing to do so without limit and without regard to context (e.g. the Muslim gang war that flared up in Sweden).

I think the idea is you are welcome to read it top to bottom or bottom to top. Whichever fits your needs.

Re: Python 3.12

#57

oh cool, multi-line f-strings. With inline comments! f"This is the playlist: {", ".join([ 'Take me back to Eden', # My, my, those eyes like fire 'Alkaline', # Not acid nor alkaline 'Ascensionism' # Take to the broken skies at last ])}"

I don't find that example particularly compelling. To me it's more legible using regular strings:

  "This is the playlist: " + ", ".join([
      "Take me back to Eden",  # My, my, those eyes like fire
      "Alkaline",              # Not acid nor alkaline
      "Ascensionism",          # Take to the broken skies at last
  ])"
edit: jinx

Re: Python 3.12

#58
post #5

Everything aside, I enjoyed the "And now for something completely different" part.

I don't think political advocacy belongs in an announcement of a Python version.

I think something run by an organisation with its own rules and guidelines, can be run any way that organization sees fit.

Re: Python 3.12

#59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think political advocacy belongs in an announcement of a Python version.

For people who downvote Bostonian for his comment, how would you like it if that announcement, say, contained an abortion-related proclamation that you don't agree with? "Share our food, Share our homes and Share our countries" is quite a big demand on everyone else. I am certainly not willing to do so without limit and without regard to context (e.g. the Muslim gang war that flared up in Sweden).

Fortunately you can read it either forwards or backwards to support your views.
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