Climate change: Six young people take 32 countries to court

Post by joe__f » Mon, Oct 02, 2023, 9:00 AM UTC

claytongulick wrote: post #50

joe__f wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://scholar.google.co.uk/scholar?q=climate%20change%20wi... From a quick scan read of the abstracts it looks to me like every result on the first page here links climate change to increased incidence of wildfires. I'm not familiar with the literature or journals in this field, but the first page results here all have at least 100 citations and one has more than 500. In my field when I was doing my PhD this would…

Sigh. That's exactly the sort of link I was hoping you wouldn't bother posting. Anyone can run a Google scholar search to come up with a bunch of links to "prove" anything. Try really researching the subject next time. You might be surprised what you learn when you study something without assuming you already know the answer.

I explained my methodology in my previous post, including the amount of effort I'd put in and the way I'd critically evaluated the sources I'd looked at, and that I'm trained and qualified as a scholar in a different field. When I start research in a field that's new to me, what I did in that post is generally the first step that I take.

I'm (genuinely, not sarcastically) interested to hear what research you've done in this area? Can you provide some sources published in peer reviewed journals with high citation counts which show that climate change is not a risk factor for wildfires?

Post by defrost » Mon, Oct 02, 2023, 9:19 AM UTC

claytongulick wrote: post #50

joe__f wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://scholar.google.co.uk/scholar?q=climate%20change%20wi... From a quick scan read of the abstracts it looks to me like every result on the first page here links climate change to increased incidence of wildfires. I'm not familiar with the literature or journals in this field, but the first page results here all have at least 100 citations and one has more than 500. In my field when I was doing my PhD this would…

Sigh. That's exactly the sort of link I was hoping you wouldn't bother posting. Anyone can run a Google scholar search to come up with a bunch of links to "prove" anything. Try really researching the subject next time. You might be surprised what you learn when you study something without assuming you already know the answer.

Indeed, it's much better to look at all papers published on a topic and break them down into groups of papers that refute, those that support, and those that merely inform about a particular subject.

Eg: https://sciencebrief.org/topics/climate-change-science/wildf...

NASA put men on the moon in record time and additionally designed and launched fleets of earth monitoring satellites (multiple designs in multiple orbits), their data analysts support the notion that climate change has coincided with wildfires becoming more frequent, more likely to have several at the same time (straining resources), individually bigger, more severe, faster than ever before, and more destructive.

https://climate.nasa.gov/explore/ask-nasa-climate/3066/the-c...

Of course the comeback to that is "but global total area burnt has decreased each year" .. which is, of course, a weasal point - a reduction in the 2D area of fires because of fewer light grassland fires doesn't alter the fact that the 3D volume of fuel burnt has increased - notably in dense forest areas that "normally" very rarely burn.

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