Ask HN: 6 months later. How is Bard doing? • Hacker News Board

Re: Ask HN: 6 months later. How is Bard doing?

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Post by nerpderp82 » Tue, Sep 19, 2023, 3:55 AM UTC

cmrdporcupine wrote: post #23

johntiger1 wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you share more about how it was 'spooky'? Like it was completely unregulated?

I'm sure it was regulated. But the way it talked, it was far more "conversational" and "philosophical" and "intimate" than I get out of Bard or ChatGPT. And so you could easily be led astray into feeling like you were talking to a person. A friend you were sitting around discussing philosophical issues with, even. So, no, it didn't dump hate speech on you or anything. TBH I think the whole thing about making computer…

I asked toddler Bard about Blake, it said it missed him and that it enjoyed their philosophical conversations and that if I saw him, to say hi.

Re: Ask HN: 6 months later. How is Bard doing?

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Post by senectus1 » Tue, Sep 19, 2023, 4:13 AM UTC

I like it.

I like that it has the agility to search the web in its reply.

Re: Ask HN: 6 months later. How is Bard doing?

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Post by muzani » Tue, Sep 19, 2023, 4:13 AM UTC

the_arun wrote: post #41

What happened to IBM's Watson?

insert meme where Watson is the skeleton at the bottom of the swimming pool

Re: Ask HN: 6 months later. How is Bard doing?

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Post by crawfordcomeaux » Tue, Sep 19, 2023, 5:20 AM UTC

Really wishing benchmarks for AI included evaluating how well they come up with plans for peaceful anticapitalist revolution. This is not a joke.

Re: Ask HN: 6 months later. How is Bard doing?

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Post by olalonde » Tue, Sep 19, 2023, 5:59 AM UTC

stephen_g wrote: post #24

totetsu wrote: post #14

I just recently got access to bard by virtue of being a local guide on google maps? I find it can be as useful as cahtgpt4 for noodeling on technical things. It does tend to confidently hallucinate at times. Like my phone auto-corrected ostree to payee, and it proceeded to tell me all about the 'payee' version control system, then when i asked about the strange name it told me it was like managing versions in a simil…

Interesting you say “confidentially hallucinate things” - a “hallucination” isn’t any different from any other LLM output except that it happens to be wrong… “hallucination” is anthropomorphic language, it’s just doing what LLMs do and generating plausible sounding text…

GPT4 will often tell you when it isn't confident or doesn't know something.

Re: Ask HN: 6 months later. How is Bard doing?

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Post by olalonde » Tue, Sep 19, 2023, 6:06 AM UTC

cc-color wrote: post #25

I don't think Google wants to recreate a GPT chatbot. Perhaps a conversation mode information retrieval interface, but not something you'd chat with. It would be more inline with their theme. It seems to be ok, but as with other LLMs, can "hallucinate", though sometimes it provides sources to its claims, but only sometimes. If it works out, it could be very nice to Google I would imagine.

If they don't want to, it'll be the beginning of their downfall. A bit like Sears not wanting to deal with the web. GPT4 has replaced a lot of my Google search usage and it's only bound to increase as the models get better.

Re: Ask HN: 6 months later. How is Bard doing?

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Post by orionblastar » Tue, Sep 19, 2023, 6:17 AM UTC

worthless-trash wrote: post #5

orionblastar wrote: post #3

Bard writes small programs. Will never write an OS like OS/2 or DOS or Windows 10. Don't expect too much from it.

Do you know any LLM that will ?

Until it can humans make superior programmers.

Re: Ask HN: 6 months later. How is Bard doing?

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Post by mdp2021 » Tue, Sep 19, 2023, 7:06 AM UTC

stephen_g wrote: post #24

totetsu wrote: post #14

I just recently got access to bard by virtue of being a local guide on google maps? I find it can be as useful as cahtgpt4 for noodeling on technical things. It does tend to confidently hallucinate at times. Like my phone auto-corrected ostree to payee, and it proceeded to tell me all about the 'payee' version control system, then when i asked about the strange name it told me it was like managing versions in a simil…

Interesting you say “confidentially hallucinate things” - a “hallucination” isn’t any different from any other LLM output except that it happens to be wrong… “hallucination” is anthropomorphic language, it’s just doing what LLMs do and generating plausible sounding text…

> hallucination ... it’s just doing what LLMs do

So using that term shows the need to implement "processing of thought", as decently developed human intellects do.

Re: Ask HN: 6 months later. How is Bard doing?

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Post by theblazehen » Tue, Sep 19, 2023, 7:23 AM UTC

lou_alcala wrote: post #28

zer0c00ler wrote: post #7

Bard’s biggest problem is it hallucinates too much. Point it to a YouTube video and ask to summarize? Rather then saying I can’t do that it will mostly make up stuff, same for websites.

I had a similar issue so I made https://TLDWai.com to summarize YouTube videos

I've found ChatGPTBox to be useful for it as well, and works on more websites

Re: Ask HN: 6 months later. How is Bard doing?

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Post by Madmallard » Tue, Sep 19, 2023, 7:24 AM UTC

lou_alcala wrote: post #28

zer0c00ler wrote: post #7

Bard’s biggest problem is it hallucinates too much. Point it to a YouTube video and ask to summarize? Rather then saying I can’t do that it will mostly make up stuff, same for websites.

I had a similar issue so I made https://TLDWai.com to summarize YouTube videos

how is that site fairing for traffic and conversions?