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Bun 1.0 announcement [video]

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Re: Bun 1.0 announcement [video]

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Post by gingerrr »

slotrans wrote: post #49
bryancoxwell wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m just not sure how you guarantee no changes to the API without knowing the size or scope of changes that may come to the language it’s built on.

As an example, Java does just fine at guaranteeing its own semantics completely independently of what happens to C++.

True, though you can't claim that's an analogous situation - C++ wasn't in alpha when the JVM was implemented.

Decoupling is of course possible, but the difference here is that the lang powering the runtime is not guaranteed to remain the same language it currently is, since it's in active initial development. That introduces a unique axis of risk to runtime stability, it's dishonest to pretend otherwise.

Re: Bun 1.0 announcement [video]

#52

Post by bobbylarrybobby »

nifty_beaks wrote: post #4
j-pb wrote: post #3

Despite the 1.0 release tag, given that it's written in Zig, which is super duper Alpha, I'd trust it only as far as I can throw a floppy with its source code.

I completely forgot it was written in Zig. Thanks for the heads up. I completely agree, I don't see how this can be labeled 1.0 release.

If they don't change the public API, they could rewrite it in Fortran for all I care.

Re: Bun 1.0 announcement [video]

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Post by AntonCTO »

Checked the docs after many months again:

- Workspace: check

- Bundling: check

- Minifying (server, browser): check

- Node runtime: check

- Browser runtime: check

- Loaders (assets, .node, .wasm): check

- Hot reload: check

It's probably worth trying to replace webpack + pnpm.

EDIT: Question: it is on roadmap to store downloaded file globally, like pnpm and maven do? This would be awesome!

Off-topic: Which equipment was used for the video?

Re: Bun 1.0 announcement [video]

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Post by jpeeler »

syspec wrote: post #38

I've not used Bun (yet), but this video managed to be to the point while delivering the information in a way that I probably would have skimmed through if reading a blog entry. I do wish the "each speaker holds the bun while talking" bit was kept the whole way through

If that's your only complaint, I'd say they nailed it.

Re: Bun 1.0 announcement [video]

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Post by AntonCTO »

colinmcd wrote: post #17
davidy123 wrote: post #14

Nearly totally unrelated, but what is with the recent trend of showing people talking to but not look at the camera? Do they save money that way? It drives me bananas and is just a distraction from the content being conveyed.. Altogether, with their obvious attempt at slickness, I find this video rather corny.

This video is definitely corny. (I'm in it.) This is intended as an extremely accessible introduction to Bun, definitely not targeted at the HN crowd. I think we really just wanted to make something with some production value to reflect the fact that Bun itself is post-1.0 and more stable/polished. The two camera thing is a classic trick that lets you add some visual interest. Basically you're cutting between two ang…

In my opinion, this is because the angle is too small. Just add another 15-25° and it would be good.

Re: Bun 1.0 announcement [video]

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Post by graypegg »

sibeliuss wrote: post #26
colinmcd wrote: post #11

Colin here, I work on Bun. Bun 1.0 is actually still compiling but we decided not to delay the premiere of this announcement video since it was already on calendars. We'll be publishing a full announcement post later today that's more detailed than this video.

Report back to this thread with a link please, when the post / v1 is ready

https://bun.sh/blog/bun-v1.0

Edit: Sorry it went down again. Not sure if this will be the eventual link.

Re: Bun 1.0 announcement [video]

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Post by pseg134 »

gingerrr wrote: post #51
slotrans wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As an example, Java does just fine at guaranteeing its own semantics completely independently of what happens to C++.

True, though you can't claim that's an analogous situation - C++ wasn't in alpha when the JVM was implemented. Decoupling is of course possible, but the difference here is that the lang powering the runtime is not guaranteed to remain the same language it currently is, since it's in active initial development. That introduces a unique axis of risk to runtime stability, it's dishonest to pretend otherwise.

Well sure if you start adding more conditionals and change the original question you can call anyone who answered the original question in good faith a liar.

Re: Bun 1.0 announcement [video]

#60

Post by sprkv5 »

If the performance improvements are that extensive, it would be interesting to see how close JavaScript + bun would get us to Go or Java on the backend. It would be a game changer if that gap can be closed.
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