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Re: Retool AI

#51

How is it possible that Retool login page [1] loads 6.4MB of resources? The app.js [2] alone is 4.0M when loaded on local machine. Is this common? [1]: https://app.retool.com/auth/login [2]: https://retool-edge.com/app.cd90db16bade51faa017.js

That's a fair concern and something we're working on improving every day! It's fairly common when you consider Retool in the context of other development platforms. VSCode is a 200MB download and is considered small in the desktop space. Even gdocs is ~30MB.

For context, these resources are cached on your machine. So you should find that the actual data transferred significantly decreases after the first visit.

Re: Retool AI

#52

How is it possible that Retool login page [1] loads 6.4MB of resources? The app.js [2] alone is 4.0M when loaded on local machine. Is this common? [1]: https://app.retool.com/auth/login [2]: https://retool-edge.com/app.cd90db16bade51faa017.js

It is fairly common. They probably aren't code splitting/tree shaking their bundle very well. With that said, I assume 99.99% of their user sessions come from a desktop computer, so I doubt hardly anyone notices. They have other things to work on that are more important than optimizing their 4mb app.js script.

Re: Retool AI

#53

Can someone who's been there tell me how the "Trusted by developers, startups, and Fortune 500s" works? How does Retool (or any company) get another company's logo here?

You need to be an insider. Like maybe your sister is married to a big tech CEO or your parents own a lot of big tech stocks. Any personal/family connection will do.

Re: Retool AI

#54

Can someone who's been there tell me how the "Trusted by developers, startups, and Fortune 500s" works? How does Retool (or any company) get another company's logo here?

I've seen SaaS providers engage in really scummy practices here. Like comb through their access logs or user databases, find that someone signed up from an IP address belonging to a corporate ASN, and then putting that company's logo on their website as a user/customer. Technically telling the truth, but with information obtained in a really shady manner.

(I'm not claiming Retool does or does not do this.)

Re: Retool AI

#55

My personal opinion (besides this constant flux of Retool product announcements) is that I truly tried and gave Retool a chance... but man, it was tough to get started, I rather just code from scratch with some boilerplate.

Hey I'm on the team at Retool and this is a place we're spending a lot of time right now. We're still working through the challenge of showing the depth of the IDE while balancing the goal of a lot of new users to maybe just get an admin panel or support dashboard that connects to their existing db or salesforce. I'd love to hear from you (or anyone else reading this) on how your getting started experience went, part…

Check out the Noteable plugin for ChatGPT to see where this could go

Re: Retool AI

#58

My personal opinion (besides this constant flux of Retool product announcements) is that I truly tried and gave Retool a chance... but man, it was tough to get started, I rather just code from scratch with some boilerplate.

The people who use retool and never coded will not realize that it would have been much easier if they just learn to code . If they build anything slightly complex, they are essentially programming with the more difficult and slow UI

Re: Retool AI

#59
post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hey I'm on the team at Retool and this is a place we're spending a lot of time right now. We're still working through the challenge of showing the depth of the IDE while balancing the goal of a lot of new users to maybe just get an admin panel or support dashboard that connects to their existing db or salesforce. I'd love to hear from you (or anyone else reading this) on how your getting started experience went, part…

Check out the Noteable plugin for ChatGPT to see where this could go

I recently discovered this combination and my mind was blown a bit.

The key part to me is ChatGPT --> Code --> Execute in real world (not sandboxed) --> achieve whatever you want out there via APIs.

I am eager to learn about how this works and maybe look to replicate or push for similar connectivity with other code execution / notebook environments (say Amazon Sagemaker)

If anyone can link me to disccussion groups, active communities or github projects that are toying with these ideas -- I would love to dive in.

Re: Retool AI

#60
post #51

How is it possible that Retool login page [1] loads 6.4MB of resources? The app.js [2] alone is 4.0M when loaded on local machine. Is this common? [1]: https://app.retool.com/auth/login [2]: https://retool-edge.com/app.cd90db16bade51faa017.js

That's a fair concern and something we're working on improving every day! It's fairly common when you consider Retool in the context of other development platforms. VSCode is a 200MB download and is considered small in the desktop space. Even gdocs is ~30MB. For context, these resources are cached on your machine. So you should find that the actual data transferred significantly decreases after the first visit.

> something we're working on improving every day!

Great to hear that! There is hope to frontend obesity crisis. What actions have you done to slip down the login page to 6MB? How large was it in the beginning? What is the bulk of that file? I mean React framework would span only 0.1% of that room.

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