They dropped this company in anticipation of a future version of the CoC and sponsorship rules. Certainly, they have the right to define their rules, but they should revise the rules beforehand.
NixOS just dropped Anduril as a NixCon sponsor
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Re: NixOS just dropped Anduril as a NixCon sponsor
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Anduril is infamous for its AI sentry towers along the US-Mexico border.
Which do what exactly? It's surveillance equipment. Do you know how many people die attempting to cross that border? Hundreds every year. Maybe when the temperature is extreme, you want to have an idea of where people are.
[0] https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jan/17/us-border-pa...
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#53Re: NixOS just dropped Anduril as a NixCon sponsor
#54Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Getting some goodwill of non-paying users I think you'll find they'll loose goodwill from some other non-paying folks. There are many people who code and use this technology who are pro-military. They may not speak up in the same circles as those who are against this but they exist. I'm only pointing this out to showcase the market is more diverse than people often realize.
also there is a silent majority, who does not have a special stance on lots of topics, just thinks like live and let live, and these kind of signalling are always a bad news for them (regardless of anti- or pro-something), as these useless drama-acts signal further polarization of the world, which often signal that some political takeover has happened in organizations which are not inherently political. This often si…
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#56Earlier quoted context omitted.
Which do what exactly? It's surveillance equipment. Do you know how many people die attempting to cross that border? Hundreds every year. Maybe when the temperature is extreme, you want to have an idea of where people are.
Current US border policy is in no way designed to minimize hyperthermia related suffering. For instance, there are nonprofits that install water stations in the desert to minimize migrant deaths. CBP agents regularly vandalize these to prevent their use [0]. They also keep captured migrants in crowded outdoor cages and in facilities without meaningful AC during the hottest months. [0] https://www.theguardian.com/us-n…
We should do everything possible to discourage this crossing. Adequate surveillance is a large part of that.
If you are legitimately seeking asylum you can just walk up to any border crossing station and not risk your life.
Edit: As far as the condition that we keep captured criminals in, I would wager a good bet that they're comparably better than the appallingly horrific conditions of South American jails.
Re: NixOS just dropped Anduril as a NixCon sponsor
#57Is there some specific controversy with Anduril that the community is reacting to, or is NixCon simply avoiding sponsorship from defense firms?
Re: NixOS just dropped Anduril as a NixCon sponsor
#58Would like to add some needed context (at least I think it's needed): * This started out because NixOS mastodon account posted on chaos.social local timeline which is rather German Mastodon instance with a strict no-military-content-without-content-warnings moderation policy. People got angry for NixOS posting about the sponsor there and started complaining en masse to drop it. I think most people complaining aren't…
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People who push back on technology used at the border make little sense to me. Using technology frees up other resources to process migrants more quickly through the abused asylum process. That means they are in detention for less time, they get court cases quicker, and get asylum or removal quicker.
Surely you can imagine some consistent viewpoints that a person could have here, such as "it can be a good thing when someone is able to escape a terrible situation in their current country even if they don't meet the rules for being granted asylum"?
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I say this as a Canadian (meaning - don't take my opinion on the US too seriously), but it's so strange to see what's happening to tech. US Tech in the past: "we dislike the military, the government, the military-industrial complex (and generally all authority) because we skew hippy and/or libertarian. Let us be creative and free!" US Tech today: "we dislike the military, the government, and the military-industrial c…
I don't see what's the difference between "we skew hippy and/or libertarian" and "our particular flavour of cultural identity politics". Hippy and libertarian is a particular flavor of cultural identity politics.
Culture war / identity politics -> oppose/support war because that's the current thing