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How would you say “She said goodbye too many times before.” in Latin?
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Re: How would you say “She said goodbye too many times before.” in Latin?
#52Yes, latin crams more meaning into each word (gender, tense ect) but that doesnt make it superior, rather different. English is generally short than french, but french remains the more exacting and clear language for communicating specific ideas.
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Re: How would you say “She said goodbye too many times before.” in Latin?
#53syllable count english 10 - She said goodbye too many times before latin 6 - nimium valedīxit polish 7 - Zbyt często się żegnała german 10 - Sie hat sich schon zu oft verabschiedet french 11 - Elle a dit au revoir trop souvent avant italian 12 - Ha detto addio troppe volte prima portuguese 11 - despedira-se demasiadamente (user tail_exchange) 14 - Ela despediu-se demasiadas vezes antes (deepl) nb: the target sentence…
polish
7 (8) - Zbyt często się (już) żegnała
Although it's possible to drop "się" if we don't care about the response to the woman, so i.e. she could write a letter with goodbyes, not caring/not receiving the response back:
7 - Za często już żegnała
Re: How would you say “She said goodbye too many times before.” in Latin?
#54Earlier quoted context omitted.
to dare → herausfordern Eng: "I dare you to drink that" Deu: "Ich fordere dich heraus, das zu trinken." Almost double
Trink's, wenn du dich traust! (Drink it if you dare.)
"Trink's doch!" has pretty much the same meaning, in the correct context.
"Just drink it [... if you dare]"
Re: How would you say “She said goodbye too many times before.” in Latin?
#55Earlier quoted context omitted.
German has many of those moments. It's a brilliant language for very specific uses, like user manuals.
to dare → herausfordern Eng: "I dare you to drink that" Deu: "Ich fordere dich heraus, das zu trinken." Almost double
If you want to keep it very formal. Informally one would say something like "Trau dich, trinks!", or even shorter, "Komm, trinks!" or "Hopp, trinks!". Also depends on the exact intentions, if it were a bet, one could translate it as "Wetten dass dus nicht trinkst?", which would also state which side of the bet the speaker is on. "Herausfordern" is also more something like "challenge", as in "one knight challenging the other", less like "dare" as in "one child trying to get the other to do something".
Re: How would you say “She said goodbye too many times before.” in Latin?
#56I think you can achieve the same "compression" in other latin languages. In portuguese, you may be able to translate this as "despedira-se demais" or "despediu-se demais" (despediu-se = she said goodbye, despedira-se = pluperfect form of she said goodbye, demais = too many times).
Yes, I think similarly in Spanish would be `se despidió demasiado` or `se despidió demasiadas veces` if you want `too many times` rather than `too much`. Disclaimer: Spanish is not my first language.
Does demais in portuguese mean too much, or too many times?
Re: How would you say “She said goodbye too many times before.” in Latin?
#57You can do something similar with Arabic, I can think of few ways to squeeze it into 4~2 words phrase (variations) without sacrificing clarity
If we open it up to Arabic slang then we can almost compress to 1, right?
رَحلِتَك
Because we can use the form of the verb that both disparagingly implies "sends you away", in the imperative form to imply what's actually being requested (obedience of repetition). Of course, it's not perfect, but definitely easily doable with 2.
Re: How would you say “She said goodbye too many times before.” in Latin?
#58I realise it's from song lyrics so doesn't have to make sense but this instinctively scans as poor grammar to me. Shouldn't it be "she'd" past tense? Otherwise it's just someone saying "goodbye too many times before" and someone who'd previously said "goodbye" more than is acceptable. ...I'm almost certainly overthinking this but I'd wager that tense error is important when translating to Latin. It's like reading XML…
If you're interested in the grammar, I think the distinction you're getting at is pluperfect (plan action that was completed-in-the-past-in-the-past) and perfect (an action that was completed-in-the-past).
"She had said goodbye too many times before" means, at some point in the past, it was the case that she had previously said goodbye too many times. I think this is the intended meaning.
"She said goodbye too many times before" I don't think makes sense if you're extremely literal about it, since I can't see what "before" would track to without the embedded past.
The grammatically correct versions I can come up with are: - She had (or she'd) said goodbye too many times before. - She said goodbye too many times. - She said, "Goodbye too many times before".
Disclaimer: I do get that these are all worse song lyrics and that nobody had any problem understanding the intended meaning of the example sentence, which is sort of the goal of grammar.
Re: How would you say “She said goodbye too many times before.” in Latin?
#59syllable count english 10 - She said goodbye too many times before latin 6 - nimium valedīxit polish 7 - Zbyt często się żegnała german 10 - Sie hat sich schon zu oft verabschiedet french 11 - Elle a dit au revoir trop souvent avant italian 12 - Ha detto addio troppe volte prima portuguese 11 - despedira-se demasiadamente (user tail_exchange) 14 - Ela despediu-se demasiadas vezes antes (deepl) nb: the target sentence…
Spanish:
Despidiose excesivamente. 10