Two hotels in the centre of Manhattan—the Redbury and Paul—just converted to refugee motels. There is a layer to this popular discourse is missing, and I’m unclear what it is.
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#52I wish every City does this. I believe Airbnb is one of the big reasons rents are raising in these Cities. Personally if it was up to me, I would have a 90% tax on receipts from Airbnb customers. If you are caught without being registered, your property is taken and sold off in a auction.
I worked in Manhattan for just over a year prior to the pandemic and spent quite a bit of time in AirBnBs while I was getting to know the city. All but one of them were people renting out a spare room in their owner-occupied space.
I appreciated that I was able to experiment with different neighborhoods without being limited to those where hotels were available.
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#53Two hotels in the centre of Manhattan—the Redbury and Paul—just converted to refugee motels. There is a layer to this popular discourse is missing, and I’m unclear what it is.
Housing availability is gruesomely low, but not so low as to challenge the Sanctuary City concept born of another political moment. I'm suspecting this might change, as NYC is more politically diverse than places like San Francisco and Seattle, and pendulums swing hard back and forth historically.
What do you think will change?
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#54I wish every City does this. I believe Airbnb is one of the big reasons rents are raising in these Cities. Personally if it was up to me, I would have a 90% tax on receipts from Airbnb customers. If you are caught without being registered, your property is taken and sold off in a auction.
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#56> Opponents of the measure, though, claim that the new measure will do significant damage to the tourism industry in New York City — potentially driving would-be visitors to New Jersey Just LOL If you believe is that New Jersey is just waiting in the wings to take tourism from NYC I've got a bridge in Brooklyn available for a good price.
I think they just mean people will stay in New Jersey - which would be extremely plausible if NJ allowed more hotels to be built. Most of the tourist stuff in NYC is in midtown which is a 15/20 minute public transit ride from the port authority/penn station/broadway area. I have family that stays in Stamford Connecticut whenever they want to do stuff in NYC, because they find it cheaper/easier to stay there and take…
I wouldn’t see the problem with that. Tourists would still flock to NYC during the day and businesses need not worry from a drop in business, it’ll work out.
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#57It's nice that this will theoretically lower rental prices, but in practice there's no way that will happen. Demand is just too high. I don't believe that the number of short-term rentals was the difference between supply matching demand. The real solution is to build more apartment units and crack down on people subletting rent-controlled apartments where they haven't lived for years.
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The anti Airbnb narrative always assumes we are talking about some crappy apartment that someone was duped into staying in. Let's entertain the idea for just a minute that you are an extended family visiting NYC. You need 2-3 bedrooms, some amount of space to spread out, and a kitchen could potentially save you some real money vs. eating out for every meal. Hotel rooms like that really don't exist, at least for norma…
> Let's entertain the idea for just a minute that you are an extended family visiting NYC. You need 2-3 bedrooms, some amount of space to spread out, and a kitchen could potentially save you some real money vs. eating out for every meal. Is there a particular reason why extended stay hotels don't work out for that kind of stay? They typically have a kitchen, fridge, and laundry facilities.
No such thing in Manhattan. Heck, even a mid-tier chain hotel on 5th Avenue is going to feel claustrophobic for one or two people, let alone a family.
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The anti Airbnb narrative always assumes we are talking about some crappy apartment that someone was duped into staying in. Let's entertain the idea for just a minute that you are an extended family visiting NYC. You need 2-3 bedrooms, some amount of space to spread out, and a kitchen could potentially save you some real money vs. eating out for every meal. Hotel rooms like that really don't exist, at least for norma…
That’s exactly right and that’s what my family and I did when we visited NY. We are a family of four. Typical hotel accommodations suck for families! As you pointed out, it’s not just the space, it’s also the cooking facilities that are so important. Our typical approach is breakfast in the unit, picnic lunches while touring around, dinner out. Sometimes we’ll cook dinner in our unit too, especially for our kids. If…
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The anti Airbnb narrative always assumes we are talking about some crappy apartment that someone was duped into staying in. Let's entertain the idea for just a minute that you are an extended family visiting NYC. You need 2-3 bedrooms, some amount of space to spread out, and a kitchen could potentially save you some real money vs. eating out for every meal. Hotel rooms like that really don't exist, at least for norma…
ok well it's a 2-3 bedroom apartment a family or roommates can't live in then. Plenty of hotels have rooms with two queens that can comfortably sleep 4 people.
My experience with NYC hotels is that rooms are really cramped, so I wouldn’t call it comfortable for four people. And not to mention prices of hotels aren’t exactly cheap, and this law clearly isn’t going to help lower hotel prices. But maybe fewer tourists is what NYC needs.