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Re: Chrome beats IE market share for one day

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Post by edwinnathaniel »

RossP wrote: post #44
avallark wrote: post #30

Chrome beats IE market share. It showed that over the weekend Chrome is the most used browser, while on a weekday, people go back to work and use IE. This has two implications: 1) Companies are still locked into some solutions like OWA and sharepoint because of which users still use IE at work. 2) Users have started distinguishing between browsers and at home they prefer using Chrome. For companies with most of their…

SharePoint is cross-browser, at least as of SharePoint 2010. I don't believe any functions require IE. Disclaimer: I work for an MS partner, while I don't admin SharePoint our company does plenty of SharePoint work and our clients are happy.

You need IE for some of its feature such as Datasheet View, multiple file upload, etc.

They don't show up in Chrome. But that doesn't mean you can use Chrome. Just less productive.

Re: Chrome beats IE market share for one day

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Post by railsjedi »

kgosser wrote: post #50
avallark wrote: post #30

Chrome beats IE market share. It showed that over the weekend Chrome is the most used browser, while on a weekday, people go back to work and use IE. This has two implications: 1) Companies are still locked into some solutions like OWA and sharepoint because of which users still use IE at work. 2) Users have started distinguishing between browsers and at home they prefer using Chrome. For companies with most of their…

Oh, those poor enterprise developers, such as myself. Everyone can talk all they want about the real world, but it's astounding how big corporations still have their battered employees using IE6. And I have to develop to that, while all you folks get to build for WebKit. Not fair! Anyways, I feel like those percentages don't tell a good story. Many of us are still locked into supporting IE6.

Any luck with Chrome Frame? I've pushed that fairly successfully at previous clients. FUD aside (from MS mainly), it's really a great solution I think for anyone forced to deal with legacy IE6 installs.

http://code.google.com/chrome/chromeframe/

Re: Chrome beats IE market share for one day

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Post by freehunter »

RyanMcGreal wrote: post #47
avallark wrote: post #30

Chrome beats IE market share. It showed that over the weekend Chrome is the most used browser, while on a weekday, people go back to work and use IE. This has two implications: 1) Companies are still locked into some solutions like OWA and sharepoint because of which users still use IE at work. 2) Users have started distinguishing between browsers and at home they prefer using Chrome. For companies with most of their…

> Companies are still locked into some solutions like OWA and sharepoint because of which users still use IE at work. My hunch is that a lot of companies are locked into legacy internal web applications that were optimized for IE6 and look like crap in a modern browser.

Even worse is a handful of web apps we use at work are coded specifically for Firefox. Firefox 3.6. They don't work in IE, Chrome, or newer Firefox versions.

Then we have some other ones that only support IE 6 and 7. My laptop only has 1GB of RAM. Yeah...

Re: Chrome beats IE market share for one day

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Post by freehunter »

Donito wrote: post #31
guynamedloren wrote: post #18

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Random story: I've used Chrome since the day it was publicly released and am fully aware that the address bar does more than just accept urls - in fact, it's called the omnibox for a great reason. But I still type in "google.com" for 99% of my searches (probably 100+ times a day). The reason is that I like the Google homepage. The white space allows me to clear my thoughts without being distracted by whatever would b…

Interesting, I actually use Bing (or at least go there once a day) mainly to see a new picture every day. It's often high quality nice shots from random places, so I feel like I'm learning about a new place every time... makes me dream :/

This is one reason I don't mind that the only built-in option for search on Windows Phone is Bing. While I believe I get better results from Google (though that may be bias on my part), when I hit the search button it pops up a nice picture. Many times the picture is relevant to a holiday or special event that occurred on that day, and there are call-outs you can press to see quick facts (today's is about Yamuna River pollution and the Taj Mahal).

It's a good example of TheCoreh's point that it's all about providing a more compelling experience. If I was given the option when I first turned on my phone, I likely would have put in Google just out of habit. Today, I probably would not. Probably.

Re: Chrome beats IE market share for one day

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Post by freehunter »

vibrunazo wrote: post #26
jonknee wrote: post #15

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Perhaps, but that's mostly because people prefer Google. When you install Chrome it pops up asking what search engine you would like to use. What should Google do differently? Microsoft hides the default search provider in the initial setup behind a "choose custom settings" button. http://nyacomputing.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/chrome-se... vs http://static.arstechnica.com/ie8_search.png

Also, I have the impression that a few microsoft products (MSN, live etc) will automatically change other browser's search engine to Bing. My girlfriend told me her "google changed" after installing MSN. But maybe it was something else, as she's doesn't exactly knows what she's doing. Can anyone confirm that?

This happens with a lot of software, unfortunately. On the side, I do computer repair (and charge for it). I'd say about 30% of my calls are "my Google changed to Ask!" after installing FoxIt or Digsby etc.

I was hoping that charging people money would lead them to finding their own solutions for trivial problems, but instead it has just padded my beer fund. C'est la vie.

Re: Chrome beats IE market share for one day

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Post by Nogwater »

tjoff wrote: post #46
ricardobeat wrote: post #25

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That doesn't make any sense. Forward compatibility is not an issue at all with modern browsers, and you're not obliged to update either.

and you're not obliged to update either. With chrome (and now firefox?) you kind of are obliged to update... Right? Due to their update scheme I've at least gotten the impression that they won't fix security issues in older versions, but I could be wrong.

Firefox has a little middle ground where you can use specific versions outside of the fast release cycle and still get security updates. At least that's the plan. https://wiki.mozilla.org/Enterprise/Firefox/ExtendedSupport:... You don't get the 10 years of support that MSFT might provide for (some) versions of IE, but it's not like you have to upgrade every 6 weeks either. Also, because Firefox is open source, they're hoping that someone else will pick up the slack and continue to support older versions.

I haven't heard of any similar program from Chrome.

Re: Chrome beats IE market share for one day

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Post by el_presidente »

jxi wrote: post #38
lucian1900 wrote: post #36

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Actually, it's much worse. Have you ever tried installing google as a search provider in IE? It's almost impossible.

I'm a software engineer, and it took me a good 10 minutes to find the damn setting. I haven't used IE in a few years but had to fire it up to so some UI testing. Gosh this definitely screams monopoly abuse to me.

Speaking of monopoly abuse... google.com tells me to download Chrome to make the Internet faster.

Re: Chrome beats IE market share for one day

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Post by jader201 »

avallark wrote: post #30

Chrome beats IE market share. It showed that over the weekend Chrome is the most used browser, while on a weekday, people go back to work and use IE. This has two implications: 1) Companies are still locked into some solutions like OWA and sharepoint because of which users still use IE at work. 2) Users have started distinguishing between browsers and at home they prefer using Chrome. For companies with most of their…

> It showed that over the weekend Chrome is the most used browser, while on a weekday, people go back to work and use IE. This has two implications: 1) Companies are still locked into some solutions like OWA and sharepoint because of which users still use IE at work. 2) Users have started distinguishing between browsers and at home they prefer using Chrome.

I think you're overlooking a third possibility: a large percentage of those using IE during the weekdays are people that just use the "default" Windows browser while at work. While at home, they just don't use computers or get online, or at least not near as much as they do while at work.

I wonder if this may be the more likely cause.

Re: Chrome beats IE market share for one day

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Post by bad_user »

cookiecaper wrote: post #43
program wrote: post #33

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WebKit is open source and is developed by Apple and other companies such as KDE, Google, Nokia, Samsung and others.

KDE is not a company and WebKit originated as a fork from KHTML, KDE's HTML rendering engine used in Konqueror. Too much credit is often ascribed to Apple for appropriating the engine on to a popular piece of software (OS X).

They did applied polish to it though and also built a new Javascript engine. I don't know who contributed what, but today's WebKit is a lot better than what KHTML was before being forked. I was once a KDE user and the first thing I did after a fresh install was to replace Konqueror.

But yes, truth be told, the KDE developers that worked on KHTML deserve a lot of credit.

Re: Chrome beats IE market share for one day

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Post by Produce »

freehunter wrote: post #53
RyanMcGreal wrote: post #47

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> Companies are still locked into some solutions like OWA and sharepoint because of which users still use IE at work. My hunch is that a lot of companies are locked into legacy internal web applications that were optimized for IE6 and look like crap in a modern browser.

Even worse is a handful of web apps we use at work are coded specifically for Firefox. Firefox 3.6. They don't work in IE, Chrome, or newer Firefox versions. Then we have some other ones that only support IE 6 and 7. My laptop only has 1GB of RAM. Yeah...

1GB of RAM on a work computer? I'd flat out refuse to do anything until they fork out a whopping £30 to quadruple that.
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