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A Journey Through Spain’s Islamic History
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#52No mention of the Toledo School of Translators, the equivalent to the Tizard mission of the 12th century. That event along with similar events in Italy and elsewhere was what truly triggered the Renaissance but historians in the West won't ever acknowledge it using that phrasing. Today, people are taught that Leonardo Da Vinci was hiding in a room somewhere and suddenly the Renaissance happened. That caliber of nonse…
Historically, Islamic philosophers (as they were then called) took works from the greek philosophers before them and expanded upon it. Then a few other philosphers who did not like people learning from non-muslims leaned hard into fundamentalism and you now have the kind of Islam (Salafist/Wahhabism) that exists today, e.g. Saudi Arabia The Mongols opened the door to fundamentalism, but it didn't have to go that way.…
Yes. But we stopped studying the Greeks for a long time and had no paper. So we could not distribute copies of Greek works until paper was introduced here, and until we had those copies.
That trend, that lasted a long time, ended with the help of the Islamic civilization influence, with the arrival of paper and translated copies of the works you are talking about.
They were studying them. We were not. Our copies come from them, and the technology to distribute those copies also comes from them.
Our scientific tradition is a direct continuation of theirs, as they are the first advisors to the first doctors in the West.
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You seem to have mistaken the Ottomans for the Andalusians, and went of on a rant.
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Sucked that they did that. But they were there for centuries; their kids didn't do it. If Moorish descendents are bereft of virtue owing to the sins of their fathers, does the same apply to the descendents of the European invaders of America?
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You are utterly confused between Ottomans and Andalusians, as well as Janissaries vs eunuchs.
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Janissaries were part of the Ottoman Empire starting in 1300s, while this article is about Muslim Spain, which lasted until 1400s at the latest. So, ignoring the rest of the bait in your content, no they did not have Janissaries.
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>What great monuments were left by the Europeans for their conquered?
"What have the Romans ever done for us?"
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The Janissary were a part of the Ottoman Empire - which was on 'other end' of Europe, geographically. The Janissaries were not eunuchs.
Eunuchs were also an element of society in Ancient Rome. I'm pointing out that it was not considered in previous ages, as it is today. As an example Italians would castrate boys prepped for singing opera - castrati - until the 1800s, it seems.
Is the idealism of a successful society ever not of the elites and the rulers?
I have read somewhere that the monarchs of Al-Andalus often had Visigoth (i.e. Spanish) lineage. Arabic may have been their lingua franca, but their society may have been essentially Spanish in many ways, just not 'Christian Spanish'.
I think that the decline and fall of Al-Andalus may have been mostly a result of internal divisions, conflict and civil war. The Reconquista was however from without, the terror of the Spanish Inquisition was what followed, for the newly conquered.
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#60I got interested in Al-Andalus when I visited Tarragona, where the Moors pushed out the Visigoths and ruled for 400 years. A short book I recommend is Moorish Spain by Richard Fletcher (https://www.amazon.com/Moorish-Spain-Richard-Fletcher/dp/052...). It's a quick and engaging read covering the conquest and slow rollback of Muslim rule.