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Windows 11 system components use the default browser to open links in Europe

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Re: Windows 11 system components use the default browser to open links in Europe

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's strange, I wonder why not EU but rather EEA. Probably the smallest target amount compared to EU and aimed at resolving some conflict with a regulation that only affects EEA rather than EU?

Countries in the EEA but not EU (e.g. Switzerland) tend to have bilateral agreements with the EU which cover most EU laws, so I think legally it's often easier to group EEA together E.g. EU enforces free data roaming for cellphone providers, but many providers allow free roaming to Switzerland and the Nordic countries too - not sure if it's just practically easier than trying to geofence those areas into a different…

Switzerland is not in the EEA. The EEA is EU + Iceland, Liechtenstein, and Norway.

Re: Windows 11 system components use the default browser to open links in Europe

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If the browser market share figures between EU and non-EU now start to diverge, it would really strengthen the case to sue microsoft in the USA...

These companies are all about efficiencies and supporting a single setting globally is more efficient than having per country settings.

They also like to take choice away from power users with the same excuse.

But regarding browser choice, they are happy to support different behaviors depending on geographic location... which already tells me that current Microsoft's practice of forcing Edge onto users does actually make a difference.

The marketshare figures will just be the cherry on top.

Re: Windows 11 system components use the default browser to open links in Europe

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post #4

Neat! But why not respect the users choice everywhere on earth?

Because other places have thriving tech industry which can’t waste time checking what browser to run

Your argument doesn’t hold at all. The functionality is already there, so ask yourself, why are they depriving people outside of the EU this functionality when it’s already there?

Re: Windows 11 system components use the default browser to open links in Europe

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They should have never done this in the first place and it was 100% intentional to try and trick you into using Edge. Secondly it is morally objectionable to just turn this off in the EEA. Thirdly, they still try and force Edge down your throat all the time.

That shows that the user is only being respected when pressured by legislation, not because you're the customer.

Microsoft does not respect its customers and does not deserve our business.

Re: Windows 11 system components use the default browser to open links in Europe

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I'm loving M$ having to admit they're intentionally abusing their users by disrespecting their preferences even when it would cost them nothing to do so.

On the windows front, it actually costs them more to make the feature geographic dependent. But on the browser dominance, the choice would actually cost M$.

Re: Windows 11 system components use the default browser to open links in Europe

#58

How do I make Windows 11 think I'm in the EU?

When you're at the point of tricking your operating system into thinking you're in a different country in order to make it function properly, it may be time to try a new OS. GNU/Linux has excellent compatibility with 95% of windows software through wine

Re: Windows 11 system components use the default browser to open links in Europe

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post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The announcement is talking about EEA rather than EU though, which smells a bit weird. I'm not sure what regulation they're trying to resolve the conflict with that is not EU wide but rather EEA and targets the usage of default browsers.

The EEA is practically “EU + a handful of countries that apply EU rules but don’t get to participate in decision making for historical reasons”. That’s why Britain didn’t even consider joining the EEA after they left the Union. From their point of view, it would still be the regulatory burden of EU membership without most of the benefits they enjoyed as a full member. When they’d decided to take the economic impact o…

Sure they get benefits, just they get no influence on what those benefits are.

Re: Windows 11 system components use the default browser to open links in Europe

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post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The EEA is practically “EU + a handful of countries that apply EU rules but don’t get to participate in decision making for historical reasons”. That’s why Britain didn’t even consider joining the EEA after they left the Union. From their point of view, it would still be the regulatory burden of EU membership without most of the benefits they enjoyed as a full member. When they’d decided to take the economic impact o…

It’s strictly the regulatory burden of EU membership without any of the benefits of the club. That's not really true if you are living in one of those countries (I live in one of those countries). In general, we get the protections that the EU gives its people and I get free travel within the zone. Lots of little things like my phone working without outrageous charges when I travel to most places here, too.

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