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Any indication of whether the vague “2023” promise for the large swathe of Eastern United States availability will actually come to fruition? Or is it like Autopilot in that it will perpetually be 6 months in the future?
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> Starlink as a technology is nothing new Dishy is the first phased array antenna widely available to consumers, as far as I know. Starlink is the first low orbit massive satellite constellation. The scale is truly new. The older geostationary communication satellites are a distinctly different system.
> Dishy is the first phased array antenna widely available to consumers, as far as I know. Dishy is the first phased array antenna that was willing to take a huge loss on each sale to consumers. This goes back to the point of getting VC and FCC money to subsidize the service. The estimated cost of the dish is still $1100-$2000 since SpaceX doesn't have any phased array technology that's proprietary, so at $500 they'r…
There's no FCC subsidy for it. And the fact it's still running means it wasn't necessary for deployment. It will just make profits come faster. Or losses stop faster
The loss on the phased arrays is much bigger since there was a commitment to $2400 for the first million.(Ukraine is a big source of losses if the Feds haven't fully paid up)
But consider what other phased arrays sell for
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Anecdote from 4 years ago? I ran that speedtest while writing the comment. You're blinded by your hate.
I'm not sure how many times you want me to repeat the same comment, but anecdotes don't match reality. Ookla and the FAA consistently show Starlink speeds on the decline to about 1/3 of what you're seeing for most users. The fact that you're in a (temporarily) uncongested area doesn't mean your speeds will stay what they are.
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except for the issue where Elon just on a whim decided to geofence the spaceX usage in Ukraine/Russia conflict to not allow it to work when near the border or in Russia :/ per article: https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2023/08/28/elon-musks-sha...
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Ukraine wanted it for defensive reasons within their own territory. It's totally reasonable that a free service has limits.
Crimea is Ukrainian territory illegally invaded and annexed. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annexation_of_Crimea_by_the_...
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> Dishy is the first phased array antenna widely available to consumers, as far as I know. Dishy is the first phased array antenna that was willing to take a huge loss on each sale to consumers. This goes back to the point of getting VC and FCC money to subsidize the service. The estimated cost of the dish is still $1100-$2000 since SpaceX doesn't have any phased array technology that's proprietary, so at $500 they'r…
Flat pack design for one. Cheaper propulsion. Laser links for truly global coverage. Massively lower price per bit. Around $1 per GB (comparable to Jetpack like plans for 4G servics) for the most expensive public Best effort plan There's no FCC subsidy for it. And the fact it's still running means it wasn't necessary for deployment. It will just make profits come faster. Or losses stop faster The loss on the phased a…
They won $900M in RDOF funding (based on a lie), which is still in limbo because of the poor performance. It's likely they will still get some or all of that since not all $900M was tied to the same speed tier. There is absolutely no proof this can be sustained forever, just like there isn't for Uber or Lyft not being profitable.
Other phased arrays with their specs do not sell for much more. They're small, low G/T, low EIRP, "cheap" units.
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Starlink is not as amazing as it's made out to be. There have been many LEO constellations before it, but due to the space industry as a whole being unattractive to investors, it didn't get any attention until musk got into it. Starlink as a technology is nothing new; what is new is their launch cadence that gives them the ability to put so many satellites into space. They are still not making money and will require…
SpaceX deliberately doesn't make money as they want to invest as much as possible into going to Mars.
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Flat pack design for one. Cheaper propulsion. Laser links for truly global coverage. Massively lower price per bit. Around $1 per GB (comparable to Jetpack like plans for 4G servics) for the most expensive public Best effort plan There's no FCC subsidy for it. And the fact it's still running means it wasn't necessary for deployment. It will just make profits come faster. Or losses stop faster The loss on the phased a…
Flat design is irrelevant and is not a differentiator. Cheaper propulsion is speculation unless you have data to prove otherwise. ISL has been around for a long time (see iridium). SpaceX achieved higher rates, though. They won $900M in RDOF funding (based on a lie), which is still in limbo because of the poor performance. It's likely they will still get some or all of that since not all $900M was tied to the same sp…
Kymeta dishes in Ukraine that replaced starlink go for $25k minimum
Not one dime of RDOF was paid. And knowing how the last RDOF equivalent worked they had every right to apply and get awarded (delivery is dubious though except in less densely populated areas). They don't seem to fake speed tests too unlike the US Telco they are partnering with for direct to cell.
The flat design means way more sats per launch. And that means you're mass rather than volume limited. It's a big difference maker since theres no central stand. Check out the SpaceX OneWeb launch as a comparison.
Iridium links are microwave. SpaceX is a laser. The tech is licensed. It's not just bit rate. And I don't think you can do 10 to 20 up on Iridium. is it possible? Is it possible at say Viasat Maritime prices? Iridium to carry drone video and/or Netflix at $10k to $20k p/m?
Is it financially viable? Time will tell. Some space economist claims SpaceX twisted the arm of the Feds for over a billion in Ukraine. I don't believe him
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Flat pack design for one. Cheaper propulsion. Laser links for truly global coverage. Massively lower price per bit. Around $1 per GB (comparable to Jetpack like plans for 4G servics) for the most expensive public Best effort plan There's no FCC subsidy for it. And the fact it's still running means it wasn't necessary for deployment. It will just make profits come faster. Or losses stop faster The loss on the phased a…
Flat design is irrelevant and is not a differentiator. Cheaper propulsion is speculation unless you have data to prove otherwise. ISL has been around for a long time (see iridium). SpaceX achieved higher rates, though. They won $900M in RDOF funding (based on a lie), which is still in limbo because of the poor performance. It's likely they will still get some or all of that since not all $900M was tied to the same sp…
https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=36552.1200
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5MEPWsdo-UE
https://space.stackexchange.com/questions/36165/why-will-sta...
I don't know if it's cheaper because it's something im not particularly familiar with.
But there's people who think SpaceX isn't launching (internal costs) for less than 60 million anyway and reuse isn't saving money