Up more than 10% after hours compared to close yesterday. I really thought NVDA had hit its ceiling at $1+ trillion, apparently not. Really does feel like a huge opportunity for Intel to me. They have the fab capacity to pump out at least reasonably competitive GPUs if they can figure out the software side of things. P/E still above 50 even after the AI craze 9x'd eps this quarter. Still hard for me to see that valua…
Intel doesn't seem to be able to execute. It's not just pumping out GPUs - for AI you need drivers, and the equivilent of CUDA and all the various libraries built on CUDA like cuDNN. They do have OneAPI but it hasn't caught on like CUDA in that space. It's kind of too bad since OneAPI is open and CUDA is not.
Nvidia announces financial results for second quarter fiscal 2024
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Re: Nvidia announces financial results for second quarter fiscal 2024
#52Absolutely monster numbers. The aftermarket trading is up over 8% as of right now, roughly $41 USD to approximately $513 a share. Insane. Anyone who is a lot more versed in company valuation methodology see this as being near peak value, or does Nvidia have a lot more room to run?
> The aftermarket trading is up over 8% as of right now, roughly $41 USD to approximately $513 a share. Insane. 8% is close to nothing in stocks. Biotech stocks go up and down more than that without earnings announcements. > Anyone who is a lot more versed in company valuation methodology see this as being near peak value, or does Nvidia have a lot more room to run? As long as fine-tuning, training or even using thes…
Re: Nvidia announces financial results for second quarter fiscal 2024
#53Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Can't they just hire all of nvidia's developers and pay them 5x as much? As time goes on I don’t see how you break the CUDA moat even if you had all of nvidia Al’s engineers. CUDA means you need everyone in AI to target your new (hopefully open) platform and that platform is faster than CUDA is. Given how most frameworks of the last 10 years have been optimized for CUDA you would need to turn around a global sized…
Well I'm not super experienced with GPU development but aren't most people using packages built on top of CUDA like pytroch etc? Would it be impossible to throw tons of resources at those packages so they handle whatever intel comes up with as well as they handle CUDA? If Intel is 10% slower but 50% cheaper and the open source stack you use has been heavily updated to work well with Intel drivers would that not be an…
Re: Nvidia announces financial results for second quarter fiscal 2024
#54Earlier quoted context omitted.
> The aftermarket trading is up over 8% as of right now, roughly $41 USD to approximately $513 a share. Insane. 8% is close to nothing in stocks. Biotech stocks go up and down more than that without earnings announcements. > Anyone who is a lot more versed in company valuation methodology see this as being near peak value, or does Nvidia have a lot more room to run? As long as fine-tuning, training or even using thes…
Biotechs are lottery tickets, not stocks. You're just gambling on binary results.
Re: Nvidia announces financial results for second quarter fiscal 2024
#55Earlier quoted context omitted.
Gamers don't have datacenter budgets
Gamers like to ignore inflation and increasing fab costs and pretend cards should cost the same forever with double performance gains every 1.5 years.
Re: Nvidia announces financial results for second quarter fiscal 2024
#56Whelp, I guess those September NVDA call options I sold are going to get exercised. Who woulda guessed after the crypto fallout that "AI" would come along and bump the price back up. Record revenues, and a dividend of $0.04 on a $450 stock? That's not even worth the paperwork. For example, if you bought 100 shares, that's $45K. From that, around September $4 will show up in your account, which you have to pay taxes o…
Jensen is one of the largest shareholders. With over 80 million shares that's an over 3 million dollar dividend for him.
Re: Nvidia announces financial results for second quarter fiscal 2024
#57Whelp, I guess those September NVDA call options I sold are going to get exercised. Who woulda guessed after the crypto fallout that "AI" would come along and bump the price back up. Record revenues, and a dividend of $0.04 on a $450 stock? That's not even worth the paperwork. For example, if you bought 100 shares, that's $45K. From that, around September $4 will show up in your account, which you have to pay taxes o…
Should have sold a call credit spread instead! For large shareholders, the dividend would still be worthwhile. From what I could find, Jensen has 1.3 million shares, so he'd receive over $200k in dividends this year. You might think that's chump change, but another source lists his salary at just under $1m; another 20% bump in liquid income is nothing to sneeze at.
Why?
> From what I could find, Jensen has 1.3 million shares, so he'd receive over $200k in dividends this year. You might think that's chump change, but another source lists his salary at just under $1m; another 20% bump in liquid income is nothing to sneeze at.
Jensen Huang is worth $42 billion and has been a billionaire for probably a decade or so now? Any CEO with that net worth would use stock-secured loans/LOCs for liquidity. 200k is very much chump change.
Re: Nvidia announces financial results for second quarter fiscal 2024
#58Incredible company. It’s absolutely insane how far ahead they are with the investments they made over a decade ago. So nice to see a “hard” engineering (from silicon to software) SV-founded company getting all this recognition. Especially after what has felt like a decade of SV hype software companies dominating the mainstream financial markets pre-pandemic with a spate of overpriced IPOs or large ad-revenue generati…
AMD GPUs get comparable results as of late on Stable Diffusion.
Software and hardware from competitors will catch up, crunching 4/8/16 bit width numbers is no rocket science.
Re: Nvidia announces financial results for second quarter fiscal 2024
#59Why, and what does it mean, for Nvidia to announce fiscal results a year ahead of time. Is it just promise to sell chips in advance, so that's how far it's booked, do they own a Time Machine...?
Re: Nvidia announces financial results for second quarter fiscal 2024
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Intel doesn't seem to be able to execute. It's not just pumping out GPUs - for AI you need drivers, and the equivilent of CUDA and all the various libraries built on CUDA like cuDNN. They do have OneAPI but it hasn't caught on like CUDA in that space. It's kind of too bad since OneAPI is open and CUDA is not.
Over the past decade Intel seems to have become more interested in social causes than in technology, maybe with a side of government backrubbing to keep some income flowing.