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ChatGPT turned generative AI into an “anything tool”

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Re: ChatGPT turned generative AI into an “anything tool”

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Post by BoorishBears »

josefresco wrote: post #18
kenjackson wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Transcribing an MP3 is a solved problem, in some contexts. What were you doing to make this a fail?

Gave Bing Chat an MP3 URL and it just refused. I know I can do this with software on my PC, or maybe there's an online service where I can upload but I was hoping this would be something Bing Chat/ChatGTP would excel at. I tried first giving it the URL of the article where the MP3 was embedded, and then tried a direct link.

I'm still lost on how you reached the conclusion Bing Chat should do be able that? Does MS imply it can do that somewhere?

Did you assume Whisper is from OpenAI => OpenAI is related to Microsoft => Bing Chat can transcribe MP3s?

I'm really just lost on the thought process here.

Re: ChatGPT turned generative AI into an “anything tool”

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Post by lucubratory »

danpalmer wrote: post #40
atemerev wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, like military strategy.

Indeed, this is something that neither AlphaZero nor anything else has managed to do at anything approaching human level.

You really shouldn't say that so confidently. I know for a fact that at least in the US military (well, DoD civilian analysts), they're using models like AlphaZero for theatre-win condition modelling. It's probably being used because it allows analysts to find better solutions and they probably started using it after winning wargames with it - both guesses on my part, all I know for sure is that they are using the tech to model westpac.

Re: ChatGPT turned generative AI into an “anything tool”

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Post by lucubratory »

danpalmer wrote: post #5
atemerev wrote: post #3

This is what we used to call an "AGI" back in 2013-2014. Generalized artificial intelligence. An AI which is general enough to be used for diverse tasks in multiple fields, unlike specialized AIs of that time (e.g. for image recognition or self-driving cars). Nothing more than that. Now the goalposts are moved way forward, and now "AGI" is something that have conscious, with superhuman intelligence, and probably evil…

This doesn't match what I've seen of usage of the term AGI since ~2010. I think we've "solved" chatbots more than was imagined at the time, and that involves being able to produce readable and arguably useful answers about a range of topics, but we haven't got game playing sorted yet, we don't have proactive models, and there's nothing in these models for movement or robotics (which until recently has been considered…

"there's nothing in these models for movement or robotics"

You should read the article. It talks about exactly this use case, using an LLM as part of robotics control systems.

Re: ChatGPT turned generative AI into an “anything tool”

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Post by steno132 »

Someone1234 wrote: post #2

Although let's see if it is sustainable. I pay for ChatGPT Plus but most people aren't, and from what I've read they're losing money like crazy. We may wind up seeing this as the technical high point before the various competitors cut back on expensive hardware/energy usage for the free tier, and the quality of the responses takes a dive. This might sound a bit conspiratorial so apologies for that but back when the c…

It’s sustainable. Llama.cpp is orders of magnitude more efficient than Llama because it’s in Rust.

OpenAI hasn’t even touched low level languages yet.

Re: ChatGPT turned generative AI into an “anything tool”

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Post by consumer451 »

lakomen wrote: post #29

I'd like to have LawGPT, where it reads all laws of a certain country, and I can ask it things like, "what are my options when the neighbors tree crosses over into my property?"

> I'd like to have LawGPT

I tried ChatGPT 4 for a specific TX county's laws. This was after I had spent hours doing traditional search. ChatGPT got everything correct, and even gave me some more direction.

Re: ChatGPT turned generative AI into an “anything tool”

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Post by BlueTemplar »

financialisty wrote: post #38
thfuran wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The difficulty of improving AI capability towards AGI isn't really related to a purported worsening of an already-implemented system for financial reasons.

If money is the bottleneck then we will never get AGI. A superior machine intelligence would have no use for money.

Only if it's singular.

Re: ChatGPT turned generative AI into an “anything tool”

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Post by BlueTemplar »

malwrar wrote: post #27
Someone1234 wrote: post #2

Although let's see if it is sustainable. I pay for ChatGPT Plus but most people aren't, and from what I've read they're losing money like crazy. We may wind up seeing this as the technical high point before the various competitors cut back on expensive hardware/energy usage for the free tier, and the quality of the responses takes a dive. This might sound a bit conspiratorial so apologies for that but back when the c…

The only moat openai has is their financial resources to pay for training and their vast troves of data scraped before reddit/twitter/etc started trying to lock things down. I think at this point there are enough people knowledgeable and interested in open LM technology that, if openai begins to degrade in quality, we won’t lose this technology forever. I’ve personally been obsessively reading papers about new models…

reddit/twitter/etc(?) data might be vast, but it's very low quality...

Re: ChatGPT turned generative AI into an “anything tool”

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Post by PeterisP »

lakomen wrote: post #29

I'd like to have LawGPT, where it reads all laws of a certain country, and I can ask it things like, "what are my options when the neighbors tree crosses over into my property?"

Lots and lots of organizations would want a strong ChatGPT-like tool which is trained on a specific (likely not open) dataset of their choosing in addition to all the large general data that grants "common sense" and language understanding. Your example for all laws of a certain country is a good one, and the legal department of some (for example) chemical megacorp would want that and also all the court cases that are even so slightly relevant, and all their contracts they have made since 1900, and all their internal policy documents - and that has quite some potential. But it really does need to be a large language model, for such scenarios, the differences between e.g. ChatGPT 3.5 or ChatGPT 4 or Llama or Llama 2 are meaningful.

Re: ChatGPT turned generative AI into an “anything tool”

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Post by astrange »

financialisty wrote: post #38
thfuran wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The difficulty of improving AI capability towards AGI isn't really related to a purported worsening of an already-implemented system for financial reasons.

If money is the bottleneck then we will never get AGI. A superior machine intelligence would have no use for money.

On the contrary. If we invented an AGI, it wouldn't be superhuman because it would be too busy working a job to pay for its own AWS credits.

Re: ChatGPT turned generative AI into an “anything tool”

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Post by BlueTemplar »

party_zebra wrote: post #30

I bet we're going through the cycle netflix went through. Cable was fractured and expensive, then netflix made it cheap and monolithic, then everyone realized there was money to be made in this new paradigm, then there was a legal fight over usage rights, then it got split up and partitioned into a bunch of different services, the combined cost of which is pretty expensive and individually each service kind of sucks.…

These are all sites relying on volunteers to contribute the data, how would that work if their input becomes "invisible" ? Even volunteers want credit / to see the final result...

(Mostly unrelated : note that the last two are now owned by Amazon.)

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