“I only had my tears to console me,” how pathetic is this?Actually slavery has become a serious problem for the Africa.It should be just removed from Africa at any cost.
Slavery's last stronghold
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Re: Slavery's last stronghold
#52As a dedicated anti-trafficking advocate (check out www.stopthetraffik.org to see some of the work we do) I am used to trolling through pages of ignorant, xenophobic disheartening callousness after an article like this.
I am so encouraged by the respect and knowledge you're bringing to the debate in this forum. What a breath of fresh air. Thank you, all the posters below, for reinforcing my faith in humanity!
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#53This problem, like many problems in the world are often examined only a few layers deep. The conclusions are always the same: Poverty/Slavery are the consequence of corruption, or an evil dictator of some kind. While it is true that dictatorship, blind eyes and cruelty are the embodiment of these issues, religion is the sword that is wielded. Each year the west makes more progress in what I would consider the eventua…
I completely agree with "an evil dictator of some kind." Many peoples have suffered the injustices of religion, also in agreement.
"Nations with higher atheism are the ones with the least problems." Can you please source that?
I believe religion in general does aid in providing some sense of moral compass. It is the two-edged sword that cuts and heals, depending on its wielder. Religion played a crutial part in Slavery, but it was also crucial in the abolishment of the same. As the article suggests, freedom cannot be given, it must be demanded. There is no way this is possible without educating the enslaved.
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#54Note that I read this article: http://edition.cnn.com/2012/03/17/world/africa/mauritania-sl... That part that really gets me is that the slave can't seem to even comprehend his own existence. Free him, and he'll remain a slave, since it's his mind that is enslaved, not his body. I hope that that at least alleviates the suffering that someone with a different mindset would experience - but it makes it much harder for…
Reminds me of "we are going to emancipate ourselves from mental slavery because whilst others might free the body, none but ourselves can free the mind. Mind is your only ruler, sovereign. The man who is not able to develop and use his mind is bound to be the slave of the other man who uses his mind...." Marcus Garvey, 1937
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#55Note that I read this article: http://edition.cnn.com/2012/03/17/world/africa/mauritania-sl... That part that really gets me is that the slave can't seem to even comprehend his own existence. Free him, and he'll remain a slave, since it's his mind that is enslaved, not his body. I hope that that at least alleviates the suffering that someone with a different mindset would experience - but it makes it much harder for…
... Free him, and he'll remain a slave ...
reminds me a bit about the way we're (mostly) taught life ought to go in the U.S.. go to school, work hard, get a good job (working for someone else).. get a car (now you have a car payment..now you need that job!).. start a family, get a house (now you can't even THINK about quitting that job!).. and if you come close to paying off any of your indebtedness.. BUY BIGGER!
Are we free in the U.S.? Nominally, yes. Culturally? Culturally, it seems like we're encouraged to indenture ourselves right from the get-go. The mindset is probably a lot less common on places like HN, where people are paid significantly better than median, admire the entrepreneur, and so on, but out in the rest of the world it is prevalent.
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#56An interesting view of slavery in Mauritania, it's important to raise awareness about slavery which has a natural tendency to fly under the radar. But the sensationalist title is misleading, old style slavery is much more prevalent than this article let the reader believe, obvious cases are dubai and sex slaves, but there are more all across the world. And there is the new style of slavery,the kind where people are f…
You throw dirt in the faces of those who have and continue to suffer through slavery by comparing it to minimum-wage workers. Slavery and Poverty and very distinct and one certainly more evil than the other.
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#57Earlier quoted context omitted.
That is not slavery. Slavery is the absolute absence of choice and opportunity. So-called "wage slavery" is the very poster child of "first world problems". Oh golly gosh it sucks so much to be tied to a job you hate, doesn't it? But in the vast majority of cases that lack of perceived freedom is not an actual lack of freedom but due to choices made. Often it's due to failure to budget and save properly, failure to a…
So according to your post, having more money = freedom ? Does it not look like what a slave to money would say to deny slavery ? Or as stated in the article: Various religions in many countries have been used to justify the continuation of slavery. "They make people believe that going to paradise depends on their submission," That's said, what you stated is false,it's a known fact that the abolition of old style slav…
If you are employed by an establishment that;
1) Does not pay you a wage for your work 2) Beats you for whatever they want to 3) Murders and often rape your children 4) Trades you for livestock 5) Offers you as gifts to their friends 6) Forces you to live under the mercy of the elements 7) Denies you the right to education 8) Brainwashes you into thinking all of the above are 'normal' and fair
...then I suggest you quit and consult a lawyer in your jursiction. Otherwise, what you describe has nothing to do with SLAVERY.
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#58This problem, like many problems in the world are often examined only a few layers deep. The conclusions are always the same: Poverty/Slavery are the consequence of corruption, or an evil dictator of some kind. While it is true that dictatorship, blind eyes and cruelty are the embodiment of these issues, religion is the sword that is wielded. Each year the west makes more progress in what I would consider the eventua…
I completely agree with "an evil dictator of some kind." Many peoples have suffered the injustices of religion, also in agreement. "Nations with higher atheism are the ones with the least problems." Can you please source that? I believe religion in general does aid in providing some sense of moral compass. It is the two-edged sword that cuts and heals, depending on its wielder. Religion played a crutial part in Slave…
> I believe religion in general does aid in providing some sense of moral compass.
Here's the problem I have with that. Let's say that I am a member of the SS
and being a member provides me with a *moral compass*. OK, wait...those are
the *wrong* morals. Right. The attack shouldn't be against people's belief
or spirituality – but of the idea that you shouldn't borrow ideas without
evaluation or due diligence.
The rosy picture of religion from the western perspective.
I agree. This is why people need to know *why* religion is being utilized and
the implications of it from the very foundation.
Atheist nations are more peaceful [1]
Predominantly Atheist Countries Have Lowest Crime Rate According To Study [2]
Atheist vs. Non-atheist Country Crime Statistics [3]
Investigating Atheism, Demographics by University of Cambridge [4]
[2] http://www.nairaland.com/121066/predominantly-atheist-countr...
[3] http://www.nationmaster.com/compare/Czech-Republic/United-St...
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#59This problem, like many problems in the world are often examined only a few layers deep. The conclusions are always the same: Poverty/Slavery are the consequence of corruption, or an evil dictator of some kind. While it is true that dictatorship, blind eyes and cruelty are the embodiment of these issues, religion is the sword that is wielded. Each year the west makes more progress in what I would consider the eventua…
nations with higher atheism are the ones with the least problems
It should be plain to see that development came first, then more atheism. This should be very obvious in Europe's history.
I think you're confusing a symptom of chaos and brutal existence with the root cause of it.
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#60No, don't believe this. The world is a very complex place, and what makes for a good story is often very different from what reality is. When American journalists write about the world, they write as if the world is America. Stories are broken down into us vs them, people become black and white, some people are assigned the label 'good' and some the label 'bad'. Everything gets americanised, even the american obsessi…
I see you repeating again and again and not providing any background information and facts. What's exactly your problem with the article. Have you found any errors or biased stuff? If so, please highlight it for us. I get the strange feeling that you have a problem with the article because it shows that not only white people are able to enslave other human beings. Maybe you should have a look at the history of slaver…
I think the problem is the rabbit hole of self-delusion.
1. This is bad, and we all agree. 2. Something should be done about it. 3. Old white people (Republicrats and Democricuns) should do something about it. 4. That "something" can and may be violence, intimidation, economic sabotage, ... 5. Oversight is provided by the same people planning and execute such measures in 4. 6. Somehow, all "we" are doing is for the greater good, all "they" are doing is wrong and backwards. 7. If you disagree with 6, you hate apple pie and mom. 8. WTF ??