Bit of a downer for the UK to see them list in the US, I do understand they just want access to the most capital, but I find a shame LSE is not competitive for this kind of thing.
Sadly the UK has a long history of sending its own tech industry abroad... It begun with the invention of the computer as we know it... - Charles Babbage,"Father of the computer", British - Alan Turing, "Father of modern computer science", British Then there was Margret Thatcher who decided the internet was a fad and wasn't worth investing in internet infrastructure in the country. Where did the multi billion (if not…
Arm Announces Public Filing for Proposed Initial Public Offering
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Re: Arm Announces Public Filing for Proposed Initial Public Offering
#52Earlier quoted context omitted.
> which I'd categorise as being generally apathetical, if not hostile, to the engineering profession Any chance you could elaborate on this? Arm exists and is British, after all.
UK engineering jobs typically have uncompetitive compensation.
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#53F-1: https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1973239/000119312523...
The "risks" section is pretty interesting, e.g.: "Arm China is 25% of our revenue, but we have no control over them, they have failed to pay us in the past resulting in us taking on additional costs to recover the money, also we have no way of knowing what they actually owe us and other than what they say, which has already been a problem"
Re: Arm Announces Public Filing for Proposed Initial Public Offering
#54Earlier quoted context omitted.
> which I'd categorise as being generally apathetical, if not hostile, to the engineering profession Any chance you could elaborate on this? Arm exists and is British, after all.
I'm not sure what that poster was referring to, however in my experience (as a brit), is that the UK is replacing any kind of industry into a service economy aka. people buying shit they don't need. You see this in a number of ways like the physical replacement of industrial areas into shopping centres or the fact the UK can't manufacture rail locomotives - the place where they were invented... Having said this, ther…
The UK is no longer in the EU. Quite a significant point!
Re: Arm Announces Public Filing for Proposed Initial Public Offering
#55F-1: https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1973239/000119312523...
The "risks" section is pretty interesting, e.g.: "Arm China is 25% of our revenue, but we have no control over them, they have failed to pay us in the past resulting in us taking on additional costs to recover the money, also we have no way of knowing what they actually owe us and other than what they say, which has already been a problem"
https://asia.nikkei.com/Spotlight/Caixin/In-Depth-How-SoftBa...
Re: Arm Announces Public Filing for Proposed Initial Public Offering
#56Earlier quoted context omitted.
> which I'd categorise as being generally apathetical, if not hostile, to the engineering profession Any chance you could elaborate on this? Arm exists and is British, after all.
The UK has a long intellectual tradition which creates a steady stream of creative and capable engineers. Capital however is predominately held via inherited wealth and its controllers want rentier incomes with low risk. As a consequence there is low appetite for risky new ventures and those that want to undertake them mostly migrate elsewhere. What's left is a stock market dominated by octogenarian+ dianosaurs, a de…
Ah! Now I get it. That rhymes with companies like Shell and Unilever leaving the EU in favour of UK after brexit.
(Not that Frankfurt, Milan, Amsterdam or Paris are known to be heavy investors in tech innovation, btw.)
Re: Arm Announces Public Filing for Proposed Initial Public Offering
#57Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Bit of a downer for the UK to see them list in the US I wonder to what extent the overarching business culture of the UK (which I'd categorise as being generally apathetical, if not hostile, to the engineering profession) might have anything to do with it. (...speaking as a former UK eng myself)
> which I'd categorise as being generally apathetical, if not hostile, to the engineering profession Any chance you could elaborate on this? Arm exists and is British, after all.
The UK has a great engineering tradition, especially from the Victorian and Empire eras, all the way up to WW2, but it seems that after that there was a dramatic and incredibly short sighted turn to economisation and avoiding investment.
The absolute poster child for this was the UK space programme, which was cancelled just before the launch of its first rocket. The director of the programme decided to defy orders and launch anyway, on the grounds that everything was ready and he was in Australia. But this pervades everything. The TBMs for Euston HS2 have been bought, but are going to spend the next year buried doing nothing, because there's a persistent desire to cancel HS2 after most of the work has been done but before any of the benefits are gained.
Concorde somehow escaped cancellation multiple times. The UK developed its own nuclear reactor technology (Magnox) then gave up and let Electricite de France run everything.
I've heard this complaint from several people in Cambridge's "startup" industry too. There are hardly any angel investors. The amounts of money available are tiny. Got an idea? Tough, you'll have to develop it in your own literal garden shed at your own expense. The local capital owners are far more interested in property, which doesn't require any thinking.
Re: Arm Announces Public Filing for Proposed Initial Public Offering
#58F-1: https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1973239/000119312523...
Re: Arm Announces Public Filing for Proposed Initial Public Offering
#59It feels strange to call it in "Initial Public Offering" when the company used to be public ten years ago.
Re: Arm Announces Public Filing for Proposed Initial Public Offering
#60Earlier quoted context omitted.
UK engineering jobs typically have uncompetitive compensation.
Uncompetitive compared to?