Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Learn as you search (and browse) using generative AI

blog.google

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

51–60 of 203 posts

Re: Learn as you search (and browse) using generative AI

#51

Post by patrickaljord »

uwerewarned wrote: post #21
add-sub-mul-div wrote: post #15

Hard pass. I don't want Google, or even a trustworthy neutral party, to decide my view of the world. (Compromised as it may be already.) We're all unique and unpredictable. In a given article, a random sentence or point considered throwaway by most people and algorithms could turn out to be meaningful to me. I've been trained not to even trust the basic facts they pull of out content like movie showtimes or whatever.…

Google is like a trustworthy neutral party except for the trustworthy and neutral bit

for non political issues it should fine, eg to describe an algorithm or other non-controversial tech issues for example.

Re: Learn as you search (and browse) using generative AI

#52

Post by tsunamifury »

add-sub-mul-div wrote: post #15

Hard pass. I don't want Google, or even a trustworthy neutral party, to decide my view of the world. (Compromised as it may be already.) We're all unique and unpredictable. In a given article, a random sentence or point considered throwaway by most people and algorithms could turn out to be meaningful to me. I've been trained not to even trust the basic facts they pull of out content like movie showtimes or whatever.…

It’s summarizing. That is by its very nature a reduction of an article to certain bias elements. It’s not rocket science or some evil magic. Jeeze you’d think HackerNews never used anything that wasn’t a home brew open source libertarian approved product if you believed the comments here.

Re: Learn as you search (and browse) using generative AI

#54

Post by hostcontroller »

skybrian wrote: post #20

“Summarize this YouTube video” (given a link) is what I’d like to see and Google could easily do when there’s a transcript, but they’d probably rather make people watch the video. I think Kagi might do this? Any other good solutions?

I used summarize.tech [0] once, and it worked fine, although it was quite repetitive iirc.

[0]: https://www.summarize.tech

Re: Learn as you search (and browse) using generative AI

#55

Post by bradly »

mmastrac wrote: post #3

I assume this is all done server-side, with Google feeding your interests and investigations into your personal profile. I really wish this could be done on-device. I don't want Google slurping up even more data about web users. I use FF mainly on desktop and mobile, and there's probably a great opportunity for Mozilla to build an offline, privacy-first summarization model.

At Apple, the challenge our team faced with on-device models was managing their size and update-ability when every team has multiple models.

Re: Learn as you search (and browse) using generative AI

#57

Post by andsoitis »

Drakim wrote: post #48
hamasho wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It may be summarized to what they want, but it can be what I want too. All YouTube recommendations are already what I want to see. Videos from creators who share my world view, criticizing what I hate, and praising what I've already liked. If this Chrome's new feature is also personalized in this manner, I can read articles against my view and still get only what I want. My world view will become increasingly polariz…

When I try to search up a topic on YouTube, the list of search results eventually STOP showing videos matching my criteria and instead show 10 videos in a row labeled "People also watched" that is unrelated to my search. It's one thing to get recommendations in a place where recommendations are appropriate, and the dangers of the feedback loop you are talking about. It's another thing entirely to actively push it in…

> results eventually STOP showing videos matching my criteria

How long is that typical list? How often do you pick the things at the bottom of that list vs the results near the top?

Re: Learn as you search (and browse) using generative AI

#59

Post by tsunamifury »

nicbou wrote: post #37

Ironically, articles got pointlessly long because of Google. Everyone stretches their content because long form ranks better. A few hours ago I wanted to know the difference between a typhoon and a hurricane. Here is the answer: they're the same thing, just in a different ocean. I clicked three or four articles and had to read for a few minutes to get to that answer. It's even worse with videos. It takes 10 minutes t…

Google shifted ranking to length under the guise of quality to cover for the increased ad impressions they were getting for those junk rambling articles.

Google has been enshitifiying the web for a good while now, and I used to work there! I worked hard to make the core product more efficient but ultimately your internal goals just override the external ecosystem. And with so much power google was able to exert a shifting force on the web.

Re: Learn as you search (and browse) using generative AI

#60

Post by [deleted] »

add-sub-mul-div wrote: post #15

Hard pass. I don't want Google, or even a trustworthy neutral party, to decide my view of the world. (Compromised as it may be already.) We're all unique and unpredictable. In a given article, a random sentence or point considered throwaway by most people and algorithms could turn out to be meaningful to me. I've been trained not to even trust the basic facts they pull of out content like movie showtimes or whatever.…

[deleted]
Post reply on HN