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Re: How They Tried to Kill Me

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The German counter-terrorism forces hold quite a bit of blame here. These things happening on German soil are unacceptable and it shouldn't be the victim's fault. What is German media saying about this?

What things could and should they have done here, if pointing out the author's naivete is unacceptable victim-blaming? The assassins are active in Germany because that's where their targets go, and the author's behavior both before and after the attack seems to have foreclosed on any effective policing.

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Any time I heard about Novaya Gazeta, it was always them doing incredibly brave journalism. Sad to hear they got shut down for good.

They moved to https://novayagazeta.eu/

They didn't really "move", it a different (though related) paper that lost some journalists from the old one who were unable or unwilling to emigrate and are kept silenced by fear for their personal safety. It is managed by a different editor (promoted from the old paper) and has a quite different feel to it.

Re: How They Tried to Kill Me

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I remember a few years back Iran send assassins to kill Iranian dissidents in Germany, Austria, and Belgium. The assassins were caught and politely returned to Iran on a private plane. No punishment for planned/attempted murder. The West is hopelessly naive about sophisticated and brutal adversaries like Russia and Iran.

It’s not naïvety, it’s that that west would appreciate the same treatment when they send spies and assassins, which they do.

When has the West sent assassins to Iran or Russia?

Re: How They Tried to Kill Me

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s not naïvety, it’s that that west would appreciate the same treatment when they send spies and assassins, which they do.

Or maybe they manage to recruit some of the spies/assassins to work as double-agents?

Another distinct possibility.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you think Soviet Russia or Tsar Russia would be any better ?

Tsar russia, soviet russia, modern russia, it's all the same. The world without russia at all would be immensely better.

Personally I think the world would be a lot better without people such as yourself. This would cull maybe 20% of Russia (including almost all of their "elites"), and the rest of us would live happily ever after.

Re: How They Tried to Kill Me

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post #14

The part that really got to me was this paragraph: >“That is what drives us crazy,” the detective said. “You come here and act like you’re on vacation. Like this is some paradise. It doesn’t even occur to you to keep yourself safe. We have political killings here. The Russian special services are active in Germany. Your carelessness, yours and your colleagues, knows no bounds.” It's very difficult to reconcile what s…

This matches with an account by Bellingcat reporter Christo Grozev, who was interviewed by the Financial Times [1]:

"How does it feel, I ask, to be here in absentia? Grozev laughs. After the Russians indicted him “in absentia”, he posted a selfie video from Palm Beach, Florida, against a sunset backdrop. “I said, ‘If this is absentia, it’s a pretty great place to be.’”

"Is Austria the least safe European country? “Yes,” he replies. “While we [Bellingcat] were investigating the Austrians, they were surveilling me and I wasn’t aware of that at the time. They were doing so explicitly at the request of the Russians. That is deep penetration.”

"He says the Germans advised him not to settle in Germany. He last visited Germany in 2020 under heavy guard as a witness in the prosecution of a Russian who had assassinated a Chechen exile. “We are also investigating examples of Russian security services penetrating German political circles,” he says. “France, I would not trust them: they don’t even trust themselves. The only place in Europe I can come to safely nowadays is the UK.”

"He is still angry, however, at London’s Metropolitan Police for cancelling his and his family’s attendance at the Bafta film awards this year. “Hearing it through the grapevine was offensive,” he says. “If there is also a risk to my family, they should tell me directly.”

"Both Turkey and the United Arab Emirates, which is teeming with Russians, are off-limits, he adds. “Dubai is Vienna on the Gulf,” he says. “I have heard this warning from both the Emirates and Turkey — ‘Do not come here. We will try to protect you. We will never extradite you [to Russia]. But we can’t guarantee your safety.’”"

Grozen did his interview in the United States, where he is currently living. I suspect that the separation by the sea (English Channel for the UK and the Atlantic for the US) increases the security.

[1] (Paywalled) https://www.ft.com/content/03f220e1-6a7e-4850-bf4e-4b0f521d8...

Re: How They Tried to Kill Me

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post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I remember a few years back Iran send assassins to kill Iranian dissidents in Germany, Austria, and Belgium. The assassins were caught and politely returned to Iran on a private plane. No punishment for planned/attempted murder. The West is hopelessly naive about sophisticated and brutal adversaries like Russia and Iran.

It is more general than the west, it is that Good people are naive. They don't understand how many people are willing to lie and kill to get even petty gains from it. The USA is struggling with this asymmetry internally right now too. We are slowly and politely trying to prosecute people who attempted to overturn an election while they incite civil unrest and pass laws protecting themselves from prosecution

Integrity is often confused with naivety in light of desired animalistic revenge.
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