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What's the cleanest way to pledge support as an individual, but without pledging as part of my company?
I appreciate the letter and trying to work with Hashicorp -- I used to have a ton of respect for Hashicorp. But honestly... at this point... ...just fork it into a foundation. Don't wait for Hashicorp's response. I get wanting to have the appearance of working with Hashicorp, but we've been shown again, and again, and again, and a-fucking-gain that private corporations cannot be trusted to maintain public goods. Only…
Marcin here, co-founder of Spacelift. Even though I strongly believe the OpenTF fork could open up incredible possibilities for the community (I could go on and on about it), it is an equivalent of a civil war. It doesn't serve the community and our only interest is in the continued strength of the community that we continue to build for. Based on my immense respect for what's been built under Hashi's umbrella I'd ra…
There's really no move for them to make here. It's unfortunate.
As I see it Hashicorp has failed to create a viable business model in an environment where there isn't unlimited perpetual VC money. Now they're at the stage of giving up and simply trying to shake down those who have managed to make better business models. It's usually not a good idea to be near a company flailing like this since who knows what their next rent seeking approach will be. A company with nothing to lose…
The worst part is they did create a viable business model. They were profitable when they had their IPO. They then pretended that the IPO was just another Series X investment, blew all the money, and went negative on their cashflow. Hashicorps problem isn't that their business model doesn't work, it's that they are really bad at their jobs. They ignore customer feedback, laid off support people, and then jacked their…
We say OpenTF is (or will be) a fork, and forks are bad, nuclear option, etc, but really, Hashicorp are the ones who made a breaking change, and the "fork" merely maintains that which already was, but for reasons, are not allowed to continue using their own name.
We need for the shortest sound-bite 3-word sentence to the non-technical to somehow use terminology that says that the entity that caused the problem is the one who did some action.
OpenTF did not (or is not prepareing to) fork this project, Hashicorp did.
If it was me and I wasn't legally prevented by something actually binding in writing with signatures, I'd even keep using the original name and duke that out.
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Speaking of nuclear options, need to get the providers to pledge/follow the fork, maybe via some kind of API incompatibility. Terraform is useless if the providers don't work with it and only the fork. Focus on disrupting the ecosystem.
Hashicorp left the provider frameworks under the original licenses, probably because they don't want to scare provider developers off. So for now both Terraform and a potential fork can continue sharing the same providers without issue.
I think the problem is that if hashicorp thinks you are a competitor you and your clients now have legal/operational issues. Ie you are now a competitor because we are releasing a product just like yours, here is a letter from a lawyer telling you to stop using terraform.
> if hashicorp thinks you are a competitor This is precisely the problem with the new BSL license. Whether your usage of Terraform complies with the license isn’t determined by the legal terms, but instead is entirely at the whim of HashiCorp. And they can change their mind at any time. It makes it impossible to build anything on top of Terraform. I talk about that more here: https://blog.gruntwork.io/the-future-of-t…
This seems to affect only those places that attempt to build a business off terraform.
I am not saying those businesses can't be mad at the rug getting pulled out from under them, but it's important to be accurate that this doesn't affect end users of TF directly.
Turns out the proliferation of open source was never because of "collaboration" or "community", it was actually just a result of zero interest rates and "growth".
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Marcin here, co-founder of Spacelift. Even though I strongly believe the OpenTF fork could open up incredible possibilities for the community (I could go on and on about it), it is an equivalent of a civil war. It doesn't serve the community and our only interest is in the continued strength of the community that we continue to build for. Based on my immense respect for what's been built under Hashi's umbrella I'd ra…
I really appreciate that, and I do think it's right of you to at least make the attempt. That being said, I don't expect this attempt to work and I fully believe that a fork is going to be inevitable. I also think a fork is an amazing opportunity to standardize the language and prioritize the features developers want. It isn't just about the license, but the way that Hashicorp has maintained the Terraform project. Th…