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Inside The Decline of Stack Exchange

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Re: Inside The Decline of Stack Exchange

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Do y'all really use ChatGPT for coding questions? Every time I have tried, the answer I get is entirely wrong, and I end up going back to either first party documentation, or Stack Exchange.

There are some strategies to get it to work better. It’s great if you tell it to create a function that accepts (input) and produced (output). For example I recently had it come up with some date formatters that saved me a lot of time, eg, transform a date from MM-YYYY to “X months ago”, stuff like that.

Re: Inside The Decline of Stack Exchange

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ChatGPT at least seems like it is trying to help me. The meta games going on in SO are a whole lot more of a mess and ChatGPT is more than happy to hear my question a 3rd time and spit out the same answer as before but change a few things. SO, not so much.

I use chatgpt as a rubber duck who I’m suspicious of. Way too often it just comes up with fictional features

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Re: Inside The Decline of Stack Exchange

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I don't think there's a polite way to put this, but to be honest this comment is an excellent example of what the parent is talking about. All companies have needs that engineers tend to be very poor at, and if the engineers are dominant and see the other members of the organization as parasites, that's a serious dysfunction and not by any means "normal".

Is there anything really special happening here? For a non-technical individual, it can be hard to tell when someone technical is providing value and when they are, to use the term in this post chain, being a parasite. A technical person has the same issues with non-technical people. I've seen different non-technical business areas have this issue with other non-technical areas. I've read reports where supposedly ent…

Ultimately, the people making those decisions need to be technical enough to know. Having those decisions made purely by non-technical people is playing russian roulette. This is something that is in many ways easier in more technical domains because at least it's possible to semi-reliably see through the bullshit.

Re: Inside The Decline of Stack Exchange

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From my experience, interacting with stack overflow and other software related sister communities has always left a bitter taste in my mouth. Ignoring the elephant in the room that I do use SO everyday with some success, but it’s mostly replaced by ChatGPT. The ridiculous (IMHO) moderation under the guise of “we have only one purpose” often didn’t even align with that goal. The writing was on the wall. So many questi…

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Re: Inside The Decline of Stack Exchange

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Some of my most recent ChatGPT interactions: 34.223.203.0/28 what is the end ip of this range? Write python code to strip out characters that are not alphanumeric or spaces How do make FastAPI not return nulls in the response model when values don't exist? Rewrite this javascript to python Braindead stuff that I would normally lookup on StackOverflow but ChatGPT gives me the actual answer instead of me having to sift…

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Re: Inside The Decline of Stack Exchange

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An interesting thing to me about SO is how their focus on being Dev Centric ultimately led to some problematic internal culture issues. This came up in a podcast episode I did and then turned up on twitter. At one point in 2013/2014, an exec asked me if any of the developers had ever treated me badly because I was a woman. My honest reply at the time was “not because I’m a woman, but they definitely have treated me b…

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Re: Inside The Decline of Stack Exchange

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post #16

From my experience, interacting with stack overflow and other software related sister communities has always left a bitter taste in my mouth. Ignoring the elephant in the room that I do use SO everyday with some success, but it’s mostly replaced by ChatGPT. The ridiculous (IMHO) moderation under the guise of “we have only one purpose” often didn’t even align with that goal. The writing was on the wall. So many questi…

IMHO their moderation practices is precisely why they are seeing this decline, like you said SO is a great resource to read but I've never asked a question outside of a handful of times over the years and every time the question was locked, deleted, etc.

On the one hand I get their argument that they want only the highest quality answers on there but in that heavy handed moderation they now have another problem which is no one outside of a handful of individuals actually wants to post or contribute.

I think if SO didn't have such heavy handed moderation practices they would have lower quality answers on there but they would also not be experiencing such a gradual decline.

Re: Inside The Decline of Stack Exchange

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post #38
post #16

From my experience, interacting with stack overflow and other software related sister communities has always left a bitter taste in my mouth. Ignoring the elephant in the room that I do use SO everyday with some success, but it’s mostly replaced by ChatGPT. The ridiculous (IMHO) moderation under the guise of “we have only one purpose” often didn’t even align with that goal. The writing was on the wall. So many questi…

Yeah their moderation is awful. So many times, I've found my exact question with a "closed, duplicate of x" note, where "x" is not my question at all and is entirely unhelpful to me.

This is exactly why I never click on it when I'm looking for something. It's never a solution that a search finds; it's always an question answered that it's a duplicate of something completely unrelated.

Re: Inside The Decline of Stack Exchange

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post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

ChatGPT at least seems like it is trying to help me. The meta games going on in SO are a whole lot more of a mess and ChatGPT is more than happy to hear my question a 3rd time and spit out the same answer as before but change a few things. SO, not so much.

I use chatgpt as a rubber duck who I’m suspicious of. Way too often it just comes up with fictional features

Aye. It's a scaffold or first draft at best.
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