The Streisand Effect is a real bitch, ain't it...
Traumatizing a 98yo woman to death also doesn't help the police's image.
Police raid of a Kansas newsroom raises alarms about violations of press freedom
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#52This is really, really upsetting to be happening in my country. I know it is a very big country, and Kansas isn't exactly proximate, but we are either a country that protects the press, or we are a country where the press protects those who have power. If this is allowed to pass without the people ordering the raid fired, I am not optimistic about what the future holds.
Our press doesn’t even protect the press at this point. We have all seen the tables pairing heads of each major news outlets with their respective political spouses, siblings, or parents. Gellhorn prize winner Julian Assange has been persecuted by the US intel complex for well over a decade.
The choice is in your hands to continue to attribute credibility to institutions that may no longer merit it.
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#54Earlier quoted context omitted.
Every one of these turns into a flamewar of cynical "America bad, corruption is the norm, there is no free press, etc." comments.
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A police chief in my state was just convicted of sexual harassment
https://news.yahoo.com/litchfield-chief-relinquishes-police-...
I think people very badly want their cynical worldview to be true
Re: Police raid of a Kansas newsroom raises alarms about violations of press freedom
#55Some interesting countries with better freedom of the press than United States (2023): Namibia, Moldova, North Macedonia, Argentina[0]
From the website it states the following.
"It is a snapshot of the media freedom situation based on an evaluation of pluralism, independence of the media, quality of legislative framework and safety of journalists in each country and region."
Is there an different list to compare against?
@Kapura since your country is big: would it be better to compare each state individually?
Re: Police raid of a Kansas newsroom raises alarms about violations of press freedom
#56This is really, really upsetting to be happening in my country. I know it is a very big country, and Kansas isn't exactly proximate, but we are either a country that protects the press, or we are a country where the press protects those who have power. If this is allowed to pass without the people ordering the raid fired, I am not optimistic about what the future holds.
Our press doesn’t even protect the press at this point. We have all seen the tables pairing heads of each major news outlets with their respective political spouses, siblings, or parents. Gellhorn prize winner Julian Assange has been persecuted by the US intel complex for well over a decade. The choice is in your hands to continue to attribute credibility to institutions that may no longer merit it.
The fact that a raid on a tiny kanas newspaper is a major national story is a sign that the press is pretty interested in protecting the press.
Re: Police raid of a Kansas newsroom raises alarms about violations of press freedom
#57This is really, really upsetting to be happening in my country. I know it is a very big country, and Kansas isn't exactly proximate, but we are either a country that protects the press, or we are a country where the press protects those who have power. If this is allowed to pass without the people ordering the raid fired, I am not optimistic about what the future holds.
It is a really big country and there's very little that can stop something like this from happening upfront. A corrupt person is always going to make it some distance before they're stopped, before the corrupt action gets enough sunlight on it. Said corrupt person isn't going to always make it easy to spot/stop, or easy to prosecute.
You have to prosecute and pursue justice after the crime/s, not before. Justice is rarely a fast event. It's identical to someone walking into a convenience store and robbing it. You can't literally stop that from happening, you have to have a justice system that will prosecute crime. There are of course no precogs yet (Minority Report [0]).
What happens next is far more important than that it happened.
> If this is allowed to pass without the people ordering the raid fired, I am not optimistic about what the future holds.
Given the scale of the US, that's overly dramatic for sure. All sorts of bad things - far worse than this - happen on a small level in the US across the states, that have practically no impact on the wider nation.
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#58As I understood it, the first amendment has been hedged to protect what papers can publish. But it does not protect how or where they get the information. The result is that courts and the police both can and will raid offices, seize materials etc. The only protections against this are (a) getting it published before you're raided and (b) whatever respect for the spirit of the constitution you can inspire in judges o…
As a clarification: Freedom of the press under the First Amendment doesn't confer special protections on journalists. Rather, it protects the rights of all Americans not merely to speak freely, but to write freely as well.
Re: Police raid of a Kansas newsroom raises alarms about violations of press freedom
#59This is really, really upsetting to be happening in my country. I know it is a very big country, and Kansas isn't exactly proximate, but we are either a country that protects the press, or we are a country where the press protects those who have power. If this is allowed to pass without the people ordering the raid fired, I am not optimistic about what the future holds.
It is a really big country and there's very little that can stop something like this from happening upfront. A corrupt person is always going to make it some distance before they're stopped, before the corrupt action gets enough sunlight on it. Said corrupt person isn't going to always make it easy to spot/stop, or easy to prosecute. You have to prosecute and pursue justice after the crime/s, not before. Justice is r…
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Re: Police raid of a Kansas newsroom raises alarms about violations of press freedom
#60This is really, really upsetting to be happening in my country. I know it is a very big country, and Kansas isn't exactly proximate, but we are either a country that protects the press, or we are a country where the press protects those who have power. If this is allowed to pass without the people ordering the raid fired, I am not optimistic about what the future holds.
It's a bit naive to think there's freedom of press in this country (freedom to publish without retribution)