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It should have no screen at all and high-quality pushers and displays... or Carplay/Auto because there is no way an old car company like GM can build software properly.
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This isn't really true except for Rivian and Tesla, which as start ups, wrote their own stack and want to fully control it. GM is moving to Google Automotive and doesn't want to enable Carplay or Android Auto, but Google is already in there deep. No other legacy manufacturers have announced plans to take away Carplay/Android Auto. Quite a few are basing their systems on Android Automotive, though (BMW, Volvo/Polestar…
If a car with Google Automotive has CarPlay, how would Google get data from the iPhone? Is CarPlay not just an interface so your phone can display things on a bigger touchscreen?
It wouldn't surprise me at all if it also somehow ended up MITM'ing / screen scraping / OCR'ing apple services.
The only solution at this point is legislation.
This sounds like someone is trying to empire build at GM to create their own version of carplay so they can be promoted.
This sounds like someone is trying to empire build at GM to create their own version of carplay so they can be promoted.
Imagine the pleasure in 3-4 years when your 130k car plays an advert on the main screen whenever you start your car, a "feature" that can only be disabled if you pay for the 20$/month premium GM+ package that includes GPS map updates and unlocks the sunroof.
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It's honestly insane. CarPlay does everything I want and the best part is it just works. A large part of that "it just works" is the fact that it's all based directly on my phone. * That restaurant we just decided to go to. Already in navigation. AND! the maps are all current with road closures/traffic issues. * The music that I was playing, it just keeps going * The garage door opener/lock/etc that I just added to H…
> It's honestly insane. CarPlay does everything I want and the best part is it just works. A large part of that "it just works" is the fact that it's all based directly on my phone. The insanity goes both ways: I refuse to use a cellphone, so I will not buy a car that has Android or Apple stuff. Hopefully I'll have other options than this $130k Cadillac, but it's good to know some automakers cater to my preferences t…
Like at all? That immediately puts you in a pretty niche category.
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Darn. I got excited for a moment thinking that a major car manufacturer was selling a car that didn't have any infotainment features at all. Oh well.
Why wouldn't you want any infotainment features? Surely it's a positive if done well.
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It is even worse than that - the CEO has this pipe dream that they are going to build a Netflix sized subscription business: https://techcrunch.com/2021/10/06/gm-aims-to-build-netflix-s...
OnStar's been around so long, and people value it enough, that it's unreasonable to sneer about pipedreams. Once you throw in Tesla-like subs for automation, etc., it's reasonable to make that a goal for 2030.
Why is this happening? Car executives aren’t stupid, and must realize software is not core to their business. Unless they plan to start selling phones down the line they can never ‘win’ this battle. It’s clearly a huge waste of internal effort.
Does Apple try and take a % of the car sale as a license fee? Even if the fee were $2000 per car… that could be passed on to the car buyer. I would pay $2000 today to get CarPlay into my Rivian.
I know some people at GM who work on in car interfaces. I remember asking one a few years ago why people would prefer an in-house solution over Carplay/Android Auto, and the answer I got was that there's a solid chance people won't. Guess we're about to find out.