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Re: How to enjoy SF

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On Chinese food: Historically the folks who settled in San Francisco came from different areas than those who settled in New York, so the food is different . However, a friend from LA pointed out that there just isn't as much of a restaurant culture in San Francisco as there is in LA. A mediocre Taiwanese restaurant in LA wouldn't survive, but nobody would bat an eye up here because the people that really care are mo…

I've been at maybe around 8 different Chinese dumpling restaurants in SF

Every one of them had completely different dumplings than the others

All of them were delicious

For whatever reason SF has great Chinese dumplings, but like OP I have struggled to find good options for other Chinese cuisine (though I'm not a Chinese cuisine expert)

Re: How to enjoy SF

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Tell me you’re not from a big city without telling me… (London, Paris, NYC, etc etc etc all have similar issues)

Houston is 3x the population of SF, and it's nowhere near as filthy downtown.

Houston is a political boundary with a population 3x San Francisco. It’s not a city or anything.

Re: How to enjoy SF

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Been living in the Bay Area for almost 10 years now. When I first came here for job interviews, I decided to stay for a few days. Rented a car and drove from Los Gatos to Santa Cruz -- I just saw the sig that said "Santa Cruz" and that sounded exotic, so I just went. What a memorable drive. Dipped my feet into the ocean after parking at some historic surfer spot, and remember how cold it was and how awesome it felt. Had interviews in SF later that week and then headed to "Marin Headlands" -- had no idea what to expect. It was a Tuesday, so not a lot of people. Saw what are probably the best views in the world from out there.

After moving here (Berkeley -- couldn't afford anything in SF without finding a roommate), I knew that the "awe" factor would take 3-5 years to fade. Every morning I would walk to BART and be greeted with flora that can be described as "alien" -- nowhere else I've seen plants of such variety just growing in peoples' front yard. On the BART ride back from SF, I would be greeted by a sunset and the views of GG bridge between MacArthur and Ashby stations, and I knew at the time that that "awe" still has a long way until it fades.

I moved to Potrero Hill soon -- rooming with with a few friends. It was such a great time living in the city in my 20s with a bunch of friends. I would walk to my office in Financial District every day. I would take the long way. I walked a lot in the city. Almost every day I would just soak in the place. The "awe" stuck around.

I also had a car that I barely put on any miles on, aside from taking random road trips. My buddy and I set the destination to "Big Sur" and just drove. It ended up taking us up some fire trails up some mountain. Then through forest roads meant for only one car going one direction.

I had a period of my life where I was living in Berkeley again, and my commute involved riding a motorcycle to the marina before the sunrise, then taking a ferry across the bay watching the sun rise above Oakland hills and the morning open up the city views. And the commute back at sunset was spectacular. That place I was living in in North Berkeley was like something out of Miyazaki movie. The neighbors knew each other. People would stop and chat on the street. This period will always be etched in my memory.

There were so so many other things I can recall from memory that keep the "awe" alive. The fires at Ocean Beach. The random dumpling places in Sunset. Discovering things like the wave organ, or that mechanical museum close to the Pier 39. Climbing up and down from Coit tower. The random bikes and walks in the GG park. Land's end "maze". Cycling the wiggle. Driving up and down the coast and staying at roadside inns. Big Sur. Big Basin. Hot springs. Tahoe trips. Russian River. etc etc....

I live in the Suburbs now. It's nice. The neighbors help each other out and know each other well. The little kids play on the streets. The older ones ride bikes through the neighborhood streets to school. The vibe is different, but it's still Bay Area. I still go on random adventures. I still feel the "awe" sometimes.

Re: How to enjoy SF

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I have lived in both, SF food is amateur hour and its expensive in comparison to NYC. $4.50 for a slice of "pizza" that is really a panini open faced sandwich GTFOH.

Yeah you can get fantastic food in SF but it requires maybe more effort to find than in other big Metros. I would speculate it's the fact that a lot of folks are vegetarian and therefore tend to cook for themselves at home: The fact that they are no longer in the "restaurant eating" pool of people negatively impacts the restaurant scene. Also, California restaurants tend to emphasize ingredient quality over other fac…

Honestly it’s unclear. The quality ingredient thing - maybe just marketing? Who is honestly serving quality ingredients when they cannot afford the rent or paying their staff. There’s a lot more mediocrity that flies here versus Manhattan . There are some great restaurants there but unless you are killing it or serving pasta, you are going under in like 12 months . Even standard coffee shops have great food as a result (bodegas excepted). As a data point , the tenderloin I have noticed has the best food at the best price points, if you are willing to go there.

Re: How to enjoy SF

#56
OP here – just chiming in to say I'm enjoying how nice everyone is being :D Glad to hear other folks have the same feelings towards SF!

Re: How to enjoy SF

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I grew up in the Bay Area my whole life. I simply wouldn't want to live anywhere else. The natural beauty, the politics[1], the community, the employment options. I agree with the article on niche interests. I am a queer polyamorous trans woman and Oakland (which I consider basically "SF" for the purposes of this discussion) is a hell of a place for people like me. I think there are very few places where I could find…

The politics in particular are why SF is such a gross place. It shouldn’t matter whether you were born in the place you live or not, trans or not, white or not, or work for a FAANG or not.

If you’re not originally from SF, and you work in tech, and don’t have some interesting combination of race, gender, and/or sexual preference, the incumbent residents will never forgive you for it.

Unlike some parts of the US where people may secretly hate you but at least act polite, or other places where people are quick to get into confrontation, but at least they’re genuine and pretty much alright, in SF people are shitty and overtly rude.

25 years after the dot com boom, still expect people to roll their eyes or talk shit to your face for being an engineer.

Bonus points: live here long enough and you’ll encounter even grosser fringe stuff like using anti-Israeli policy as an excuse for straight-up antisemitism. Using anti-racism as an excuse for pro-car anti-pedestrian policies. Using the of environmentalism as an excuse to protect gas stations and parking lots and prevent construction of housing.

The weirdest bit is the very few people I know who were actually born here are great. The vast majority of the people using the cudgel of “oh yeah? How long have you lived here?” may only outrank you by a few years.

Re: How to enjoy SF

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I loved the Bay Area when we lived there for the outdoors, the food, and the varied terrain, like this article outlines. But I hated the Bay Area for the people. Not that anyone was particularly nasty or mean, they were just flaky . The number of cancelled plans, far, far outnumbered the kept ones. I'm open to the idea it was just me, but I know we weren't the only people experiencing this – and I have a much easier…

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Re: How to enjoy SF

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I grew up in the Bay Area my whole life. I simply wouldn't want to live anywhere else. The natural beauty, the politics[1], the community, the employment options. I agree with the article on niche interests. I am a queer polyamorous trans woman and Oakland (which I consider basically "SF" for the purposes of this discussion) is a hell of a place for people like me. I think there are very few places where I could find…

The politics in particular are why SF is such a gross place. It shouldn’t matter whether you were born in the place you live or not, trans or not, white or not, or work for a FAANG or not. If you’re not originally from SF, and you work in tech, and don’t have some interesting combination of race, gender, and/or sexual preference, the incumbent residents will never forgive you for it. Unlike some parts of the US where…

SF also seems hostile towards its African-American population. There's a great first-hand report from many Black SF residents from earlier this year that was eye-opening to people not close to the issue: https://www.reddit.com/r/AskSF/comments/104qo9k/black_people...

Re: How to enjoy SF

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Agreed, the dating in the bay is amazing.

Most statements I've heard about the dating scene are pretty negative for men at least. Mostly stuff like this: https://old.reddit.com/r/bayarea/comments/y0heqs/what_is_the...

My female straight friends flying in from LA and NYC feel like they Bay is a goldmine for women looking for ambitious partners, your "purchasing power" is a lot higher here.

At the same time, I don't think I've ever heard a single straight male praise the area for its love-life opportunities.

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