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My problem with python is that it's branded as cross-platform when at the end you are required to learn docker and run on a linux environment to really stop suffering.
I have developed insanely complicated software with Python that works pretty well. If you expect to find Java or C in Python you are looking at the wrong place.
I wish people could be honest and say they don't care for some language or framework or OS for personal or aesthetic reasons, rather than having to round it up to being objectively bad, but then I suppose nobody probably would click on "I don't like Python and have got some nits to pick". Oh and he just says what is supposed to be quiet part at the end: >And, not to put too fine a point on it, but if you can code Pyt…
Aha, you pointed out the disease. This is the biggest problem in software and it's kind of intractable. The ideal world has tools that empower everyone to do what they need to do, which to some extent must include an activity like programming. But, and this may be unconscious, "people who program for a living" have a strong incentive to gatekeep.
Not only then is it gatekeeping, it's also a sign of an inexperienced programmer.
I'll give one thing to Python programmers, they tend to work directly with their end users and build solutions that matter to them. Anyone that's done that kind of work knows it's difficult, regardless of programming language being used.
A few weeks ago I was working on a small wildfire smoke and fire perimeter API, and I hit a few annoying snags due to tooling issues. I needed to process a lot of different formats of layered geographic datasets, and converting one thing to another, processing the data into various buckets, cleaning, aggregating, etc. all wound up being extremely cumbersome and verbose. I write a lot of Go and I’m used to that. But w…
Python is a horrible language, but not for the reasons the author gives. Just because range() returns a generator doesn't mean the whole language is lazy. Several Lisps allow something like duck typing and they're not horrible. It is possible to reason about program behaviour in dynamic languages, but JavaScript certainly makes it hard. Python is a horrible language because it is not a language. It is a family of lan…
I’m not a fan of Python, but this article is insufferable in tone. If Python doesn’t meet your needs, don’t use it. There’s plenty of oddities to gripe about in Python, but this article doesn’t attempt to learn something or make a larger point beyond “my favored approach is the only valid approach”. Sorry, but that’s not an opinion worth considering.
Python is one of my least favorite languages and I avoid it wherever I can. I agree with several of the criticisms here, but I disagree with this part: > The problem with Python is of course that it is an interpreted language with lazy evaluation That isn't "the problem" with Python. There's nothing wrong with these sorts of languages. However, it does limit the sorts of problems the language is suited for, and I do…
> with lazy evaluation I know it has functions that are lazy, but it's not lazy as in a sense that Haskell is right? I never use it as I find it a ghastly horror show (my taste, other people like it, that's fine), but I had to use it a few times and found that (also from the article) some parts are lazy, but not python as a language. Is that not correct? > it does limit the sorts of problems the language is suited fo…
In an odd twist, function argument defaults are evaluated at function definition execution time rather than call-time (so half-way in laziness) so a `[]` as a default is shared between all users of that function and if you modify it you are changing a global. I heard that this led to a vulnerability within some security software.
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Aha, you pointed out the disease. This is the biggest problem in software and it's kind of intractable. The ideal world has tools that empower everyone to do what they need to do, which to some extent must include an activity like programming. But, and this may be unconscious, "people who program for a living" have a strong incentive to gatekeep.
What's amazing is people who program for a living, who people would normally think of as being "experts", have so little knowledge of all the different types of programming that is done by, well, people who program for a living, and the tools they use to do that programming. Not only then is it gatekeeping, it's also a sign of an inexperienced programmer. I'll give one thing to Python programmers, they tend to work d…
I know that's a tough thing to say -- but yeah, the irony is that a really really good "low-level programmer" is destined for obscurity, because things just work and once they're working people forget about it. Shouts to Linus Torvalds.
I wish people could be honest and say they don't care for some language or framework or OS for personal or aesthetic reasons, rather than having to round it up to being objectively bad, but then I suppose nobody probably would click on "I don't like Python and have got some nits to pick". Oh and he just says what is supposed to be quiet part at the end: >And, not to put too fine a point on it, but if you can code Pyt…
The amount of idiotic … implications of his statement is so excruciating it’s physically painful to me. But I encounter this unadaptive unawareness all the time with working with programmers from other teams, etc so I’m used to it.
Lack of static typing is nothing in comparison with lack of common sense and unwillingness to learn ("why force oneself ? The job market swallows everything anyway") .