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Sigh, this is what browsing the web in the EU looks like nowadays (2021)

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Re: Sigh, this is what browsing the web in the EU looks like nowadays (2021)

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post #15

I feel like a reasonable tweak to GDPR is to require that if a site has an "accept all" button, it needs an equally (or more) prominent "reject non-essential" button.

That is already the law - note the cookie consent law is not GDPR.

Many websites seem to break this law.

Re: Sigh, this is what browsing the web in the EU looks like nowadays (2021)

#52
post #44
post #2

What could you possibly mean? Government made it so much better. How else would you know that the cookies (you're going to consent to anyway) are being put on your computer?

In my personal experience, people who hate the GDPR are typically not EU citizens. I am an EU citizen and I strongly approve of GDPR. Is it perfect? No. Is it a step in the right direction? Yes.

Do you also approve of surveillance states that a lot of EU countries are? Do you approve of push to end encrypted messaging? Do you approve of impossibility of getting an anonymous SIM card?

Re: Sigh, this is what browsing the web in the EU looks like nowadays (2021)

#53
post #3

i liked how the reddit popup had nothing to do with cookie consent and the second site didnt have any popups at all - author could have cherry picked a bad example but for some reason gave us this?

For me this was about how seeing the terrible UX due to ads, cookies, tracking but also bad UI in the case of reddit.

Re: Sigh, this is what browsing the web in the EU looks like nowadays (2021)

#55
post #25

A reminder that websites wouldn't need to do this if their intention wasn't to track you all over the internet. It's google, facebook etc that are trying to shove these things down your throat, not the EU.

That ship has sailed. It is now on the end user to protect themselves. These banners are just plain noise. No one is reading them. People will click whatever they need to click to dismiss the dialog. The general computing population does not give a shit, and the ones who do will use privacy-oriented browsers and platforms.

Re: Sigh, this is what browsing the web in the EU looks like nowadays (2021)

#56
post #21

Instead of hating the EU, how about directing your hate towards the bad players of the web? Cookie banners are not the fault of the EU, but the fault of companies disrespecting privacy rights and pushing data collection, ads and all possible shady growth hacking strategies towards the user. I am glad that a government body actually made this possible and made visible how horrible the internet is.

A bad bandaid is still a bad thing, regardless of what it is covering up. Cookies are table stakes on the internet. This is the wrong solution to a completely different problem.

All they have to do is stop tracking us and only use login cookies if i log in. Simple enough.

Any other cookies are not "table stakes".

Re: Sigh, this is what browsing the web in the EU looks like nowadays (2021)

#58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If not for EU law the result would have been displayed inline immediately.

The Reddit one is just because of Reddit, not cookie consent.

You would never have to see that with American Google because the answer is displayed inline

Re: Sigh, this is what browsing the web in the EU looks like nowadays (2021)

#59
post #43

This is one of the reasons why Social Networks are eating websites. Most people get a bad experience browsing the internet. Yeah, I get it, we know Hacker News, and other good websites. But my dad just want to read news about sports and politics, it's much easier to do it through Facebook posts than to open a browser and get annoyed by ads, popups, etc. Same for young people: I can get fun with TikTok and YouTube, wh…

Wow what a totally unintended consequence :D

Re: Sigh, this is what browsing the web in the EU looks like nowadays (2021)

#60
post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yea, let's blame EU for websites spying on you If website uses cookies just for legit purposes (e.g auth, language choice), then it doesn't need to show cookie consent. Webmasters should get awarness on this or stop spying

So you’re a company with a web property. Your lawyers tell you you have two options: 1. Ensure that you’re perfectly abiding by all “legit purposes” and be prepared to update your policies and software each time those change, at the risk of huge fines. Or, 2. Just put an annoying banner up and have no risk. Which do you do? Government created this problem. Yes, it was in response to bad behavior from industry, but th…

This is nonsense. You can't just put any kind of cookie banner up and magically be in compliance. You'd still have to explain what kind of data is being shared with with parties and why. And you have to update your privacy policy to keep it accurate in any case!

In fact, many of the websites that have these obnoxious cookie banners are NOT in compliance because don't offer a simple and unambiguous opt-out option.

These cookie banners and cookie popups are intentionally made to be maximally annoying. That's not good faith behavior by companies. That's malicious and an attempt to get consumers to blame regulators for breaking their browsing experience. The worst thing is that some people totally fall for it!

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