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Re: Temple OS Theme for Arch Linux

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That's sad and I feel for anyone whose mental illness drives wedges between them and society. I can't imagine many things more horrifying than to be a sentient mind trapped in a brain determined to play tricks on it. That said, you can't just let someone with those issues spew awfulness even if it's caused by a medical condition. That's a rough situation for the person being banned but I'm not sure what the less bad…

Sure you can, you just recognize that the person saying it is a very different kind of person. Who was actually offended by Terry’s schizophrenic ramblings? Is the n word really that disturbing when used by someone without a firm grasp on reality and in the midst of a word salad? Is it racist or just nonsense? “Rule are rules”… well, people in wheelchairs get a different set of rules and I’m perfectly fine sacrificin…

> when used by someone without a firm grasp on reality

Implicit in this question is the idea that everyone viewing the thread is on the same page about why the person is spewing racist crap. This is never the case.

Imagine you stumble upon a brand new forum, where you know nothing about the regulars or years of built-up social dynamics. You find someone making racist remarks, and everyone is just... fine with it. You have finite time before you die: you're not going to wait around to see if there's a good reason for it. The reasonable thing to do is write it off as a forum that tolerates racism and move on with your life.

What do you want to do, flair people with "kind of crazy, don't worry if they say racist shit sometimes" labels? How are you planning to verify these people and tell them apart from people who just want to say racist shit? I guarantee there are a lot more of those than there are Terry Davises. This is, to put it gently, not scalable.

I've seen this is at small scale, too. Tolerance leads to the problem getting worse over time. You need to stand up for your rules of conduct, and hope the offender learns the right lesson from it. If not, that's not your responsibility. Your responsibility, as a group leader or admin, is the environment everyone shares.

Re: Temple OS Theme for Arch Linux

#54

It seems weird to me, that the linked website is just for selling cheats for multiplayer games. Not sure what to make out of this...

Sounds like you have rogue extension somewhere.

It's a link at the bottom of the readme... if you read it...

Re: Temple OS Theme for Arch Linux

#55

It seems weird to me, that the linked website is just for selling cheats for multiplayer games. Not sure what to make out of this...

Huh? The article link is to a github repo.

Yea and that github repo's readme has a link to "templecheats" at the bottom. Did you read it?

Re: Temple OS Theme for Arch Linux

#56

It seems weird to me, that the linked website is just for selling cheats for multiplayer games. Not sure what to make out of this...

Since there seems to be a misunderstanding:

I meant the website linked in the readme.md [1] of the linked repo

[1] https://github.com/PhilipPanda/TempleOS_Theme/blob/main/READ...

Re: Temple OS Theme for Arch Linux

#57
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I don’t think it’s remotely the same thing. What comfort are you sacrificing for the disabled in the real world? On the pseudo anonymous internet it’s impossible to tell whether you’re dealing with a very different type of person or just a troll hellbent on sabotaging your community. When the quality of discourse is in the dumps, who caused it or why won’t matter when folks have lost interest in engaging with that co…

It was very, very easy to tell that Terry was a “very different type of person” and not just a troll hellbent on sabotage. Nearly any post from him had a particular word salad (or a link to such word salad on his TempleOS page) that was readily recognizable as a sign of mental illness, and I’ve never in my decades of following news-for-nerds sites seen a troll emulate it.

Obviously you don't have "showdead" set to "yes", because I do, and I see mentally ill racist people posting the n-word and other unhinged hate speech word salad to Hacker News all the time.

Are you saying we should un-ban them all too, just because they are obviously insane?

And that all you have to do in order to openly and repeatedly harass anyone you feel like with sexist, racist, homophobic, and anti semitic hate speech is to act insane?

That's convenient.

Re: Temple OS Theme for Arch Linux

#58

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Sure you can, you just recognize that the person saying it is a very different kind of person. Who was actually offended by Terry’s schizophrenic ramblings? Is the n word really that disturbing when used by someone without a firm grasp on reality and in the midst of a word salad? Is it racist or just nonsense? “Rule are rules”… well, people in wheelchairs get a different set of rules and I’m perfectly fine sacrificin…

> when used by someone without a firm grasp on reality Implicit in this question is the idea that everyone viewing the thread is on the same page about why the person is spewing racist crap. This is never the case. Imagine you stumble upon a brand new forum, where you know nothing about the regulars or years of built-up social dynamics. You find someone making racist remarks, and everyone is just... fine with it. You…

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missing_stair

>The missing stair is a metaphor for a person within a social group who many people know is untrustworthy or otherwise has to be "managed," but around whom the group chooses to work by discreetly warning newcomers of their behavior, rather than address them and their behavior openly. The "missing stair" in the metaphor refers to a dangerous structural fault, such as a missing step in a staircase; a fault that people may become used to and quietly accepting of, is not openly signposted or fixed, and that newcomers to a social group are warned about discreetly. [...]

>Meaning: The analogy of the missing stair makes it clear that the problem is the predator (the missing stair) and that the solution is stopping the predatory behavior (fixing the stair).

>An article about industry sexual harassment on comics news site ComicsAlliance posed the question: "Which one of these statements makes more sense to say: 'These people need to find more ways to stop people from harming them.' OR: 'These people should stop causing harm.' If you ever find yourself saying the former instead of the latter, take a moment and ask yourself why."[3]

>In a 2014 post on the anti-rape blog Yes Means Yes,[4] lawyer Thomas MacAulay Millar wrote that the missing stair analogy was consistent with his understanding of rapists' motivations and behaviors, based on research carried out by clinical psychologists David Lisak and Paul M. Miller, and by Stephanie K. McWhorter, a researcher with the U.S. Naval Health Research Center. Millar wrote that while a small number of rapists are "one-timers" who may be making a mistake or are confused about consent, the majority are repeat offenders, averaging six rapes each.[5] "We need to spot the rapists," Millar wrote, "and we need to shut down the social structures that give them a license to operate. They don't accidentally end up in a room with a woman too drunk or high to consent or resist; they plan on getting there and that's where they end up."[6]

Re: Temple OS Theme for Arch Linux

#59

As someone who first knew Terry Davis from Slashdot where his clearly mentally ill posts seemed to get downvoted a lot of the time, it is remarkable to see that the products of his madness have become regarded as real art with staying power. He is like the Adolf Wölfli of the hacker crowd.

TempleOS is actually pretty cool, when viewed as the product of one man's dream. How many people can say they've written a 64-bit, multi-core, protected mode OS that comes with its own programming language? Then, throw in a flight simulator game, just for giggles. Honestly, if it weren't the product of religious delusions common with schizophrenia, I'd say TempleOS and HolyC would be more than enough of a resume to g…

>Honestly, if it weren't the product of religious delusions common with schizophrenia

Are you forgetting or whitewashing his racist delusions, or are you saying that religious delusions imply racist delusions?

Going around delusionally telling everyone that Jesus loves them isn't the same thing as shouting the n-word at everyone.

Re: Temple OS Theme for Arch Linux

#60
post #39

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TempleOS is actually pretty cool, when viewed as the product of one man's dream. How many people can say they've written a 64-bit, multi-core, protected mode OS that comes with its own programming language? Then, throw in a flight simulator game, just for giggles. Honestly, if it weren't the product of religious delusions common with schizophrenia, I'd say TempleOS and HolyC would be more than enough of a resume to g…

> Honestly, if it weren't the product of religious delusions common with schizophrenia, I'd say TempleOS and HolyC would be more than enough of a resume to get hired into many programming jobs. He actually was employed as a programmer before the whole schizophrenia/TempleOS arc.

He had a master's degree in electrical engineering from Arizona State University and worked at Ticketmaster as a VAX programmer. He also started programming in assembly from an early age.

He comes from a time where they had to share 2 MB of memory among 100 users. He can run circles around many modern programmers.

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