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Amazon requires services on Fire TV to give it 30% of ad impressions or revenue
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#52Point #1: This bait-and-switch tactic shouldn't be allowed by consumer regulations (Not in the US, but here in Brazil it would be a no-no) as in the end Amazon is tricking it's use base into paying for the Fire TV as a great deal, when in the end they will pay more for streaming as those costs that Amazon is putting on the streaming services will be paid by them in the end. #2 Wouldn't this movement be (potentially)…
It's called the razor-and-blade model, it's not a bait and switch.
RE Plex, that's basically what Android TV does, except it's better than Plex (for streaming services and device manufacturers) and has the same model as FireTV
Re: Amazon requires services on Fire TV to give it 30% of ad impressions or revenue
#53Earlier quoted context omitted.
One of the reasons the state of smart home TV really disappoints me. Logical conclusion is we'll all end up with Netflix HDMI sticks, Hulu sticks etc etc etc. DRM means we're never going to end up with a fully open TV player.
The dumb thing though is that DRM... kinda works? I know that we techies can bypass it fairly easily, regardless of type... but I do understand the argument that 95%+ of people can't bypass DRM even if they tried their hardest, it's just too complicated for them. Which in a sense makes it effective and purposeful? Ugh.
The hard part for people is not obtaining a copy of the media which DRM is "supposed" to prevent. The hard part is setting up the multiple services that makes all this convenient with slick interfaces that people are used to similar to Netflix. That would still require just as much effort with or without DRM.
Re: Amazon requires services on Fire TV to give it 30% of ad impressions or revenue
#54Point #1: This bait-and-switch tactic shouldn't be allowed by consumer regulations (Not in the US, but here in Brazil it would be a no-no) as in the end Amazon is tricking it's use base into paying for the Fire TV as a great deal, when in the end they will pay more for streaming as those costs that Amazon is putting on the streaming services will be paid by them in the end. #2 Wouldn't this movement be (potentially)…
Plex Inc. is not a good company. They are eager to collect and sell your data to advertisers. Jellyfin is a great alternative.
Plex may share Collected Information as expressly set forth in this Privacy Policy, including the following limited situations: [...] With third parties to improve and deliver advertising to you on our behalf.
Plex may also use third-party advertising companies to serve ads, which may, directly or indirectly, collect or use information about user visits to websites and mobile app usage over time and across non-affiliated websites and mobile apps to display advertisements more tailored to users’ interests on this browser or device, and those browsers or devices associated with it.
More in the "Data We Collect" section: https://www.plex.tv/about/privacy-legal/
Re: Amazon requires services on Fire TV to give it 30% of ad impressions or revenue
#55Roku does the same. At this point I would be surprised if any box or TV isn't taking 30%.
AFAIK, Google TV isn't.
https://www.sony.com/electronics/support/articles/00279895
Maybe there's a difference between Google TV and an Android TV, but my partner's dad can't buy/rent stuff on Prime Video through his tv, he has to use another device and then can watch it on his tv. He finds it very irksome, to say the least.
My understanding is that this came around by Google insisting on the 30% cut of purchases made in the Prime Video app on the tv, and Amazon told them to pound sand. I could of course be wrong, though.
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#56I have 7 HDMI slots on my TV, ready for Peacock Stick, Hulu Disney Plus stick, Netflix Stick, Paramount Plus stick, Max Hub etc etc Not more than seven though mmmkay?
You'd probably DoS your router if they're all on concurrently due to all the data exfiltration they're performing.
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#57Point #1: This bait-and-switch tactic shouldn't be allowed by consumer regulations (Not in the US, but here in Brazil it would be a no-no) as in the end Amazon is tricking it's use base into paying for the Fire TV as a great deal, when in the end they will pay more for streaming as those costs that Amazon is putting on the streaming services will be paid by them in the end. #2 Wouldn't this movement be (potentially)…
Umm no need to pay for many or any streaming service then that consumer problem is solved just watch the free outlets like YouTube.
Hollywood's biggest competitor is content creators on Youtube, Tiktok, etc ... my bet is they will need to compete and many paid offerings will consolidate and become free / less expensive to compete with all the free content creators on YouTube, Tiktok and etc. If you look at where the eyeballs are the majority are on Tiktok. Personally after using Reels, Tiktok and tons more of YouTube i have a hard time watching long form content. I just want to watch stuff here and there in the background while im working or right before bed any other time Im far away from tv screen outside or with friends/family enjoying life.
Further .. i use to watch documentaries on the history channel and or other places ... there's tons of solid and good content creators doing that same thing on youTube.
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#58Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's assuming you get the content through the services themselves rather than through other means.
This right here. You're anti-consumer? Enjoy losing money with your content "monopoly"
I also enjoy spending time on shady websites with scams ads and virus. That will teach Netflix and Apple.
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I'll just opt for the Kodi / Plext TV sticks and call it a day. Or hook it up to a HTPC and call it a day.
Sure but pirating all your VOD content is never a mass-market viable solution.
It was for a long time, the thing that "killed" it was Netflix being very good for a brief moment, while at the same time many pirate sites got shut down and content creators went after people who didn't use a VPN to torrent.
Many VPN services are one click to install and $2-5 a month, and the pirate sites are very resilient at this point, so anti-consumer practices could easily drive a resurgence in this form of mass market consumption.
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#60Earlier quoted context omitted.
One of the reasons the state of smart home TV really disappoints me. Logical conclusion is we'll all end up with Netflix HDMI sticks, Hulu sticks etc etc etc. DRM means we're never going to end up with a fully open TV player.
Why can't you just plug a Linux box into your TV and use that? Like am I taking crazy pills. I got fed up with the madness of all the streaming sticks, and putting in my password with a crappy remote and ended up dropping $300 on an old desktop from a discount computer store. Spent an hour throwing Ubuntu on it, and now bam, works like a charm. I put the youtube, PBS Kids, and Disney+ (which we later removed) icons o…
I could do that, and indeed I used to use a Windows machine as an HTPC until I got sick of dealing with UIs that didn’t play well with remotes (in fairness it’s been years but desktop apps for streaming services were always deeply inferior and web sites were designed for a mouse).
The larger point though is that what you’re describing is not mass market viable. If the streaming services wanted they could shut off HTPC access overnight and they probably wouldn’t even lose a rounding error in terms of users. In a future world where every streaming service has their own stick with its own ads and own DRM I can absolutely imagine them doing that to force everyone over.