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Re: Threads users down by more than a half

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Post by bandyaboot » Fri, Jul 28, 2023, 6:19 PM UTC

wombat-man wrote: post #47

ghawk1ns wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It’s becoming increasingly obvious that Twitter isn’t going to be that place with each new chaos monkey attack from Musk Is this hyperbole? Twitter will be fine, Musk isn't going to train-wreck 10s of billions. Twitter today isn't even that fundamentally different from pre-Musk. The biggest change has been perception from ideological extremes. I'm sure Twitter will evolve but evolution is for growth, not death. You…

The network Twitter has will be hard to break for sure. But I think it's already worth much less than what he paid. Musk needs to be careful here, it is possible to lose.

I would go further and say that at this point it will be difficult not to lose. Twitter is a wounded animal just waiting to be eaten.

Re: Threads users down by more than a half

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Post by kayodelycaon » Fri, Jul 28, 2023, 6:19 PM UTC

ghawk1ns wrote: post #37

dhosek wrote: post #23

I don’t use Twitter because I like Twitter, but because that’s where the people that I like to interact with (mostly writers) are. It’s becoming increasingly obvious that Twitter isn’t going to be that place with each new chaos monkey attack from Musk, but what the successor place is going to be remains to be seen. Threads failed the smell test early on because it started out with algorithmic feed only and the algori…

> It’s becoming increasingly obvious that Twitter isn’t going to be that place with each new chaos monkey attack from Musk Is this hyperbole? Twitter will be fine, Musk isn't going to train-wreck 10s of billions. Twitter today isn't even that fundamentally different from pre-Musk. The biggest change has been perception from ideological extremes. I'm sure Twitter will evolve but evolution is for growth, not death. You…

Are you kidding? Twitter has limits on how much you can read now. It's useless for me.

Re: Threads users down by more than a half

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Post by owlbynight » Fri, Jul 28, 2023, 6:22 PM UTC

BlueSky is going to win. Domain verification and custom feeds (user-generated firehose filters) are its killer features. It's already better than Twitter, and it's still behind invite codes as they refine it.

Once brands realize that they can utilize custom feeds to reach potential customers granularly instead of -- or in addition to -- paying for advertising, it's going to be over for Twitter. Twitter could introduce something similar to compete, but they shit-canned all of their talent, and in the process hamstrung their ability to innovate.

Re: Threads users down by more than a half

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Post by ploden » Fri, Jul 28, 2023, 6:23 PM UTC

I checked it out, but I won't use it. Social media in its current form is exploitation.

Re: Threads users down by more than a half

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Post by mrguyorama » Fri, Jul 28, 2023, 6:26 PM UTC

operatingthetan wrote: post #9

This is being reported in a strange way. We don't typically write about startups gaining initial signups and then compare them to the active users as if they lost something by not getting 100% of them to engage. Do we even have numbers for what percent of twitter users actively engage versus total user base? I don't think they are doing very bad considering it's mobile only right now.

>We don't typically write about startups gaining initial signups and then compare them to the active users as if they lost something by not getting 100% of them to engage.

I mean, we should? Startup valuations are full of MAU pumping and straight bullshit, so why shouldn't we judge their numbers with a cynical eye? Meta claimed a number of users the first few days, well, half of them aren't using it anymore, so they aren't "Users"

Re: Threads users down by more than a half

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Post by [deleted] » Fri, Jul 28, 2023, 6:27 PM UTC

ghawk1ns wrote: post #37

dhosek wrote: post #23

I don’t use Twitter because I like Twitter, but because that’s where the people that I like to interact with (mostly writers) are. It’s becoming increasingly obvious that Twitter isn’t going to be that place with each new chaos monkey attack from Musk, but what the successor place is going to be remains to be seen. Threads failed the smell test early on because it started out with algorithmic feed only and the algori…

> It’s becoming increasingly obvious that Twitter isn’t going to be that place with each new chaos monkey attack from Musk Is this hyperbole? Twitter will be fine, Musk isn't going to train-wreck 10s of billions. Twitter today isn't even that fundamentally different from pre-Musk. The biggest change has been perception from ideological extremes. I'm sure Twitter will evolve but evolution is for growth, not death. You…

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Re: Threads users down by more than a half

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Post by nomel » Fri, Jul 28, 2023, 6:28 PM UTC

superfrank wrote: post #49

ghawk1ns wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It’s becoming increasingly obvious that Twitter isn’t going to be that place with each new chaos monkey attack from Musk Is this hyperbole? Twitter will be fine, Musk isn't going to train-wreck 10s of billions. Twitter today isn't even that fundamentally different from pre-Musk. The biggest change has been perception from ideological extremes. I'm sure Twitter will evolve but evolution is for growth, not death. You…

Based on the most recent estimates of Twitter's value, Musk has already train wrecked 10s of billions of dollars. You mention that Twitter isn't that fundamentally different and from a product perspective, and I would mostly agree, but their finances are WAY worse than they were pre-Musk. The company has lost something like 50% of ad revenue, they've saddled themselves with something like an extra $1B dollars a year…

> Musk has already train wrecked 10s of billions of dollars.

Why would a user of the site/app care about this? How is it impacting their experience?

Re: Threads users down by more than a half

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Post by kyriakos » Fri, Jul 28, 2023, 6:28 PM UTC

Maybe it'd have done better if it launched worldwide. I still haven't seen the app and I do use twitter. A lot of people I follow are from Europe so threads won't have most of the content I'd want anyway.

Re: Threads users down by more than a half

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Post by tschellenbach » Fri, Jul 28, 2023, 6:28 PM UTC

ok but this is very normal for social apps. doesn't really tell you anything. long term retention matters

Re: Threads users down by more than a half

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Post by gloryjulio » Fri, Jul 28, 2023, 6:29 PM UTC

dhosek wrote: post #23

I don’t use Twitter because I like Twitter, but because that’s where the people that I like to interact with (mostly writers) are. It’s becoming increasingly obvious that Twitter isn’t going to be that place with each new chaos monkey attack from Musk, but what the successor place is going to be remains to be seen. Threads failed the smell test early on because it started out with algorithmic feed only and the algori…

He didn't kill threads but he definitely killed it's profitability. Let's see how he recovers from that