This kind of sounds like torture, even though it's directed at plants rather than animals or other humans...
Forced rhubarb, a vegetable deprived of sunlight, is having a renaissance (2019)
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Re: Forced rhubarb, a vegetable deprived of sunlight, is having a renaissance (2019)
#52Belgian endive is another vegetable grown in the dark. Vertical farming, no LEDs needed, harvest in 25 days: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPr06HDnttU
Re: Forced rhubarb, a vegetable deprived of sunlight, is having a renaissance (2019)
#53Belgian endive is another vegetable grown in the dark. Vertical farming, no LEDs needed, harvest in 25 days: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPr06HDnttU
Traditional recipe
https://www.meilleurduchef.com/en/recipe/endive-ham-gratin.h...
Re: Forced rhubarb, a vegetable deprived of sunlight, is having a renaissance (2019)
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Probably in small doses (like what our ancestors 20000 years ago probably eat when they couldn't find better food) it won't do too much damage. Cooking will also remove some oxalates. Overall these are plants defense mechanisms. We know they work well as anti bug measures, ruminants have more complex digestive systems to break them down; it's not always clear what prolonged use on humans will cause. Carnivores advoca…
> I personally started experiencing problems after 10 years of a 95% vegan diet and went carnivore, getting rid of a number of weird health issues I couldn't explain. Have you tried just eating many different things in moderation? Fiber has been repeatedly shown to decrease rates of cardiovascular disease, cancer, and all cause mortality. It’s kind of silly to “go carnivore” and use your resulting feelings as a base…
Being “carnivore” is a more foolproof choice.
Following an 100% vegan diet in a healthy way requires more care in choosing some appropriate nutritional supplements and in planning what you eat than for any other kind of diet.
I am vegan and I enjoy it, but I would not recommend this for everyone, because there is no doubt that it would be too tedious for most people, who prefer to eat in a more spontaneous way, without needing to ponder whether what they happen to eat has an adequate nutritional content, taking into account what else they had eaten that day.
Re: Forced rhubarb, a vegetable deprived of sunlight, is having a renaissance (2019)
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I grew up eating the Rhubarb plant by tipping the root side (stem?) In sugar and just eating it like that. It's very sour like that, which as a kid I loved.
Same here - the sugar offsets the sourness just enough. Is it a Polish/Eastern European thing?
It's done in Ireland too, and I would assume anywhere rhubarb is grown, given it's the one of the most trivial ways to turn it into a treat.
Re: Forced rhubarb, a vegetable deprived of sunlight, is having a renaissance (2019)
#56Remember: never rub another man's rhubarbs.
I was also thinking of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VC1a48_mCVM
Re: Forced rhubarb, a vegetable deprived of sunlight, is having a renaissance (2019)
#57Mentioned in the article, but forced rhubarb grows so fast you can hear it. This soundcloud file suggests hearing it in a darkened vault by candlelight would be extraordinary experience! https://soundcloud.com/rhubarb-rhubarb-rhubarb/a-mass-of-pop...
On s calm morning, you can also hear corn growing.
Re: Forced rhubarb, a vegetable deprived of sunlight, is having a renaissance (2019)
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Oxalic acid is poisonous? Should I stop eating spinach then? Oh, looks like the article mentions this actually: > Chard and spinach, in fact, contain even more oxalic acid than rhubarb—respectively, 700 and 600 mg/100 g, as opposed to rhubarb’s restrained 500. Rhubarb’s killer reputation apparently dates to World War I, when rhubarb leaves were recommended on the home front as an alternative food. At least one death…
No, spinach is only rich in oxalic acid, not in calcium. No vegetable is really rich in calcium, which is why it is recommended for vegans to take calcium supplements. After you ingest oxalic acid, it will find calcium in your body, where it is abundant in blood and in the other extracellular fluids (like sodium and chloride, most calcium stays outside the cells). Too much oxalic acid will form insoluble precipitates…
> No vegetable is really rich in calcium, which is why it is recommended for vegans to take calcium supplements
Or just drink German tap water ...
Re: Forced rhubarb, a vegetable deprived of sunlight, is having a renaissance (2019)
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Do you have a source for that? Because while looking up this spinach thing I've come across half a dozen websites, most of them from health institutes that look fairly responsible, stating leafy greens do have calcium. Although in the case of spinach it's barely absorbed, apparently https://www.myfooddata.com/articles/high-calcium-vegetables....
Having much calcium among vegetables does not mean having enough calcium as a human food. Your link uses the silly "cup" unit of measure from which it is hard to assess which is the real calcium content. The right way to show the content of a nutrient in some food is to show how many kilograms or pounds you must eat daily to provide enough of that nutrient. In the case of calcium the best case that I have seen for va…
Thanks for the information. Upon closer inspection the authors of the link are a nutritionist and an osteopath, so yeah, not quite as reliable as I thought at first.
Re: Forced rhubarb, a vegetable deprived of sunlight, is having a renaissance (2019)
#60I live in Spain but I had the chance to travel to northern Europe dozens of times, where I learned to love rhubarb. I really would love rhubarb to grow here but it is almost impossible to find, even in big cities.
Very common in France if you ever drive by. Usually sold as a small 30cm^3 plant which will probably grown up to 1.5m in diameter the first year. I used to have 7 in 12m2. It’s also possible to grow from seeds, which you can buy online. It will require some dedication. IME a very easy perennial, if you can prevent drought. Plant and forget. Like artichokes.
From what I know, not everywhere in France but in the north.
It was impossible to me to find this month in Occitane, at least.