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Texas A&M suspended professor accused of criticizing Lt. Gov. Patrick in lecture

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Re: Texas A&M suspended professor accused of criticizing Lt. Gov. Patrick in lecture

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> And Sharp was communicating directly with the lieutenant governor’s office about the incident, promising swift action.

In Texas, what entities have oversight over potential abuses of power by the Lt. Governor's office, the Texas A&M system Chancellor, and the Texas Land Commissioner?

Are they credible?

I'm not going to jump to conclusions, but am wondering whether this credible-looking journalism will prompt government investigation with integrity.

Re: Texas A&M suspended professor accused of criticizing Lt. Gov. Patrick in lecture

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post #26

Crackdowns on free speech are increasing worldwide. Afghanistan, Russia, China, Hong Kong, Florida, Texas... Israel just reached the using fire hoses on protestors level.[1] [1] https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/25/world/middleeast/israel-j...

Oh come on, stop with the hyperbole. Two of those things are nothing even close to the others.

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Re: Texas A&M suspended professor accused of criticizing Lt. Gov. Patrick in lecture

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post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That’s an incredibly aggressive intentional misinterpretation of what I said. In the last 3 years we had government officials directing, in very strong language, various tech companies on what was and was not allowed on their platforms. While many people might argue that tech platforms are not public squares and should be free to censor however they like, everyone should have a problem with politicians directing tech…

> In the last 3 years we had government officials directing, in very strong language, various tech companies on what was and was not allowed on their platforms. And, as is their First Amendment right, those tech companies frequently responded with "no". This is very clear from the Twitter Files information, even if the journalists involved glossed over that point. For example: https://thehill.com/policy/technology/38…

Lol using the one instance that trump asked for something stupid and was denied and pretending that happened a lot is again a very intentional mischaracterization of what happened. Not only is that apparently like one of the only times trump asked for something it’s totally dwarfed in comparison to the Biden admin’s many censorship requests which had no pushback despite being equally frivolous. Not to mention the laptop from hell.

Really this sort of thing should be seen as an in-kind political contribution, and the fact it’s not shows just how captured the entire judicial and regulatory branch is.

Re: Texas A&M suspended professor accused of criticizing Lt. Gov. Patrick in lecture

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post #26

Crackdowns on free speech are increasing worldwide. Afghanistan, Russia, China, Hong Kong, Florida, Texas... Israel just reached the using fire hoses on protestors level.[1] [1] https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/25/world/middleeast/israel-j...

Don't forget California, where faculty is effectively required to engage in progressive political speech! https://archive.is/VDNPj

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Re: Texas A&M suspended professor accused of criticizing Lt. Gov. Patrick in lecture

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post #26

Crackdowns on free speech are increasing worldwide. Afghanistan, Russia, China, Hong Kong, Florida, Texas... Israel just reached the using fire hoses on protestors level.[1] [1] https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/25/world/middleeast/israel-j...

Oh come on, stop with the hyperbole. Two of those things are nothing even close to the others.

Eh, Florida pretty much falsified COVID data at the behest of the Desantis admin

Re: Texas A&M suspended professor accused of criticizing Lt. Gov. Patrick in lecture

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post #26

Crackdowns on free speech are increasing worldwide. Afghanistan, Russia, China, Hong Kong, Florida, Texas... Israel just reached the using fire hoses on protestors level.[1] [1] https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/25/world/middleeast/israel-j...

Oh come on, stop with the hyperbole. Two of those things are nothing even close to the others.

Something about a slippery slope?

Re: Texas A&M suspended professor accused of criticizing Lt. Gov. Patrick in lecture

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post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It'd be a huge First Amendment problem if tech companies weren't permitted to agree with the government.

That’s an incredibly aggressive intentional misinterpretation of what I said. In the last 3 years we had government officials directing, in very strong language, various tech companies on what was and was not allowed on their platforms. While many people might argue that tech platforms are not public squares and should be free to censor however they like, everyone should have a problem with politicians directing tech…

Your point is an incredibly aggressive intentional misrepresentation of what actually happened.

Nobody actually believes that other than right wing fundie culture warriors. Elon Musk thinks it’s complete bullshit, as does every other person who is willing to put objective facts above their personal feelings.

Re: Texas A&M suspended professor accused of criticizing Lt. Gov. Patrick in lecture

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post #26

Crackdowns on free speech are increasing worldwide. Afghanistan, Russia, China, Hong Kong, Florida, Texas... Israel just reached the using fire hoses on protestors level.[1] [1] https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/25/world/middleeast/israel-j...

This is what happens when free speech is not valued and defended throughout our culture. Politics is downstream from culture. When we are OK with, and often encouraging of, private censorship, we shift the Overton window and provide moral cover for politicians and government entities to further consolidate power. This story is a prime example.

People who peddle the argument that the 1st amendment only protects you from government censorship as a basis to invalidate the vigorous defense of free speech ideals in society, are either disingenuous or wildly narrow sighted.

Re: Texas A&M suspended professor accused of criticizing Lt. Gov. Patrick in lecture

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post #3

> Ultimately Texas A&M allowed Alonzo to keep her job after an internal investigation could not confirm any wrongdoing.

The fact that they chose to suspend the professor as an initial step is still an issue.

Censorship doesn’t inspire chilling effects without merit less punishments, so it was very necessary.
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