Unicode Character “𝕏” (U+1D54F) • Hacker News Board

Re: Unicode Character “𝕏” (U+1D54F)

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Post by voxadam » Mon, Jul 24, 2023, 12:01 PM UTC

PaulHoule wrote: post #45

voxadam wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

𝕏 (U+1D54F) decomposes[0] to X (U+0058) meaning that if you search for 𝕏 your search string will likely be automatically converted to the equivalent X. Of course, while a search engine could conceivably index and search the entire Unicode codespace internet wide, such a task would likely be somewhat unrealistic and provide only limited upside. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unicode_equivalence

It’s already got to search 1000s of Chinese characters, a few more doesn’t make a big difference.

How do you decide which characters to index? The current Unicode release (15.0) includes 149,186 individual characters. I suppose you can probably ignore U+237C (Right Angle with Downwards Zigzag Arrow) seeing as nobody seems to know what it denotes.[0][1]

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31012865

[1] https://ionathan.ch/2022/04/09/angzarr.html

Re: Unicode Character “𝕏” (U+1D54F)

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Post by layer8 » Mon, Jul 24, 2023, 12:02 PM UTC

voxadam wrote: post #14

CodeCompost wrote: post #4

Ah so that's how we're supposed to Google for tweets now. "𝕏 something something".

𝕏 (U+1D54F) decomposes[0] to X (U+0058) meaning that if you search for 𝕏 your search string will likely be automatically converted to the equivalent X. Of course, while a search engine could conceivably index and search the entire Unicode codespace internet wide, such a task would likely be somewhat unrealistic and provide only limited upside. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unicode_equivalence

The essential operation here is not decomposition, but compatibility normalization. Both NFKC and NFKD result in a regular “X”.

Re: Unicode Character “𝕏” (U+1D54F)

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Post by sebzim4500 » Mon, Jul 24, 2023, 12:03 PM UTC

PaulHoule wrote: post #41

superhumanuser wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Twitter is rebranding to X.

Does this have anything to do with the cage fight/dick measuring content with Zuckerberg? I think almost everybody thought renaming Facebook to Meta was a bad idea, but maybe Musk knows something we don’t. ;-)

> I think almost everybody thought renaming Facebook to Meta was a bad idea

Do they? Why?

I don't see how it did any harm, and people are way more willing to admit an association with Meta than with Facebook.

Re: Unicode Character “𝕏” (U+1D54F)

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Post by Y-bar » Mon, Jul 24, 2023, 12:03 PM UTC

Zambyte wrote: post #34

GaggiX wrote: post #17

I use this X character in my name on Telegram, now everyone will think I'm an Elon stan.

Just change your name to the Twitter bird

"No way! Why should he change? Musk’s the one who sucks!"

Re: Unicode Character “𝕏” (U+1D54F)

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Post by lifthrasiir » Mon, Jul 24, 2023, 12:04 PM UTC

It's actually time for someone to adopt this character [1] at the gold level ($5,000), which is only allowed for the single entity and doesn't expire---so that X.com doesn't have a chance to sponsor the character at the same level.

[1] https://home.unicode.org/adopt-a-character/about-adopt-a-cha...

Re: Unicode Character “𝕏” (U+1D54F)

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Post by layer8 » Mon, Jul 24, 2023, 12:04 PM UTC

isodev wrote: post #9

Taek wrote: post #3

This character was added to Unicode in 2001, which notably is after Elon acquired x.com

The character is used by another famous piece of software for what, 40 years? https://x.org/wiki/

X.org doesn’t use that character. But e.g. TeX probably did before Unicode.

Re: Unicode Character “𝕏” (U+1D54F)

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Post by optimalsolver » Mon, Jul 24, 2023, 12:04 PM UTC

spiffistan wrote: post #28

yaakov34 wrote: post #21

Can someone explain what we are talking about here? Something having to do with Musk's son's name?

Twitter has been rebranded as 'X'. Elon has the domain x.com and I suppose he wants to use it

Is this like when that Roman emperor named his horse as a senator, or are we not quite there yet?

Re: Unicode Character “𝕏” (U+1D54F)

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Post by tiborsaas » Mon, Jul 24, 2023, 12:05 PM UTC

samwillis wrote: post #12

petercooper wrote: post #7

Does this affect the potential for trademarking the logo?

Absolutely. They can probably trade mark it for social media (unless someone already has), but are highly unlikely to be able to trademark it broadly, which clearly is the intention.

I don't see a problem with this, it's a generic character used in mathematics. If nobody trademarked it before, it shouldn't cause any issues. If using greek letters like λ in brands is not a problem, then this should fly too.

They could also apply for multiple trademarks with small additions if they launch a new product:

𝕏ₚₐᵧ

Re: Unicode Character “𝕏” (U+1D54F)

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Post by kibwen » Mon, Jul 24, 2023, 12:06 PM UTC

PaulHoule wrote: post #41

superhumanuser wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Twitter is rebranding to X.

Does this have anything to do with the cage fight/dick measuring content with Zuckerberg? I think almost everybody thought renaming Facebook to Meta was a bad idea, but maybe Musk knows something we don’t. ;-)

> Does this have anything to do with the cage fight/dock measuring content with Zuckerberg?

They're both the results of a sad man's extremely public midlife crisis, so yes.

Re: Unicode Character “𝕏” (U+1D54F)

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Post by samwillis » Mon, Jul 24, 2023, 12:07 PM UTC

EspressoGPT wrote: post #46

samwillis wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Absolutely. They can probably trade mark it for social media (unless someone already has), but are highly unlikely to be able to trademark it broadly, which clearly is the intention.

Isn't a trademark always tied to its respective business domain?

Yes, but those "classes" can be quite wide, there is for example no way they could trademark it for "Class 9: Computer and software products and electrical and scientific products."