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A full episode of South Park generated by AI

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Re: A full episode of South Park generated by AI

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Post by wonderwonder »

ars wrote: post #18
wonderwonder wrote: post #15

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I read a claim stating that studios were requesting that actors sign over their ai generated likeness to the studios in perpetuity. Which if accurate is insane. Dude could appear for 5 minutes in a movie as an extra, get paid $500 and then never get paid again but show up in hundreds of movies.

Why is that insane? He worked for 5 minutes only. Most people don't get paid over and over for working just once. And in any case it would be easy enough to create a hybrid likeness that combines a few people, with the final result looking like none of them, if you have an issue with the image of someone being used.

He works for 5 minutes because he is never hired again because they have rights to his likeness and can just drop an animated him into any movie. They could make him the main actor in a block buster and he gets $0.

Re: A full episode of South Park generated by AI

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Post by pests »

TillE wrote: post #36
bryancoxwell wrote: post #23

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Sounds like more work than making an episode without AI to be honest.

Given that they were originally cranking episodes out in less than a week, yeah probably. I remember being astonished when their Elian Gonzalez episode aired four days after the raid, directly referencing it.

I remember the same for the Terri Schiavo fiasco.

Re: A full episode of South Park generated by AI

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Post by ars »

wonderwonder wrote: post #51
ars wrote: post #18

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Why is that insane? He worked for 5 minutes only. Most people don't get paid over and over for working just once. And in any case it would be easy enough to create a hybrid likeness that combines a few people, with the final result looking like none of them, if you have an issue with the image of someone being used.

He works for 5 minutes because he is never hired again because they have rights to his likeness and can just drop an animated him into any movie. They could make him the main actor in a block buster and he gets $0.

Yes, that's an option, but if you don't want that don't agree to such a job.

Re: A full episode of South Park generated by AI

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Post by kadoban »

tekla wrote: post #27
RajT88 wrote: post #19

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In its current form, it was adopted by the right. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_correctness For my money, I've yet to get a coherent answer as to why a simple ask regarding common courtesy ("don't be a dick to people who aren't like you") is a bad thing. People immediately shoot off on tangents about freedom of speech, and "Cultural Marxism" (lol) and what-have-you.

Well, many people getting offended when you take the lords name in vain or swear, but I doubt people actually care on the left that much about being dicks to them. So do you actually care about being a dick to people not like you? I certainly swear alot and don't care that much.

> but I doubt people actually care on the left that much about being dicks to them

Based on what? Most people aren't jerks on purpose, and if anything those on the left are shown by research to be more empathetic than others.

Re: A full episode of South Park generated by AI

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Post by kadoban »

ars wrote: post #53
wonderwonder wrote: post #51

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He works for 5 minutes because he is never hired again because they have rights to his likeness and can just drop an animated him into any movie. They could make him the main actor in a block buster and he gets $0.

Yes, that's an option, but if you don't want that don't agree to such a job.

Great advice. Hard to take when you're broke and trying to make rent though.

So they should have basic, agreed standards of what appropriate agreements look like, negotiated as a group.

Re: A full episode of South Park generated by AI

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Post by ars »

kadoban wrote: post #56
ars wrote: post #53

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Yes, that's an option, but if you don't want that don't agree to such a job.

Great advice. Hard to take when you're broke and trying to make rent though. So they should have basic, agreed standards of what appropriate agreements look like, negotiated as a group.

> Hard to take when you're broke and trying to make rent though.

Are you upset they aren't making as much money as they possibly can, rather than what is available?

Chasing the ultimate amount of money isn't a practical strategy.

> So they should have basic, agreed standards of what appropriate agreements look like, negotiated as a group.

That certainly makes it faster - you don't need to negotiate individually, instead "take it or leave it", and hopefully it's a good deal for both.

But it's not like such an agreement is required, if someone wants to negotiate something else, nothing is stopping them.

And you can be sure that some indie company will decide to leapfrog the studios and do exactly that with non union models.

Re: A full episode of South Park generated by AI

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Post by kadoban »

ars wrote: post #57
kadoban wrote: post #56

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Great advice. Hard to take when you're broke and trying to make rent though. So they should have basic, agreed standards of what appropriate agreements look like, negotiated as a group.

> Hard to take when you're broke and trying to make rent though. Are you upset they aren't making as much money as they possibly can, rather than what is available? Chasing the ultimate amount of money isn't a practical strategy. > So they should have basic, agreed standards of what appropriate agreements look like, negotiated as a group. That certainly makes it faster - you don't need to negotiate individually, inst…

> Are you upset they aren't making as much money as they possibly can, rather than what is available?

I'm not particularly upset at the moment about anything. I disagree that one should have to choose between eating today and having a chance at a real career though.

> That certainly makes it faster - you don't need to negotiate individually, instead "take it or leave it", and hopefully it's a good deal for both.

That's not what I'm suggesting. The absolute basics that ensure human decency should not need to be negotiated every time though. Use those at the starting point, and people can negotiate individually from there.

> And you can be sure that some indie company will decide to leapfrog the studios and do exactly that with non union models.

Why haven't they done it yet? Every one of my favorite shows and movies that I can think of are using union actors and writers.

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