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We Need to Talk About Android

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Re: We Need to Talk About Android

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post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Buy a nexus phone?

I did that. That's the one reason why I bought a Nexus S. It's March, about 4 or so months after Android 4.0 launched. I still have 2.3 on my Nexus S, because of delays for my region and carrier.

On the bright side, you are a hacker. It is damn easy to get 4.0 on any Nexus S device.

Re: We Need to Talk About Android

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post #20

This leaves a really good space for the Android manufacturer who gets this right. I'm due to upgrade my phone and am seriously considering between iPhone and Android. The fact that my current Android phone, just a year old LG that only now runs 2.2, so quickly went out of usability makes me wonder exactly the same thing. If someone can deliver to me solid technology that keeps working with Android as it evolves (to a…

Already been done. The Nexus line of phones have the latest software directly from Google, and no carrier bloat. Really, anyone technical enough to read HN should go with a Galaxy Nexus or Nexus S vs. ANY other Android phone.

Re: We Need to Talk About Android

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post #8

> where are the apps to challenge iMovie, GarageBand, Keynote, OmniFocus About GarageBand, there is a known problem with sound latency in android that prevents real time audio apps to be developed and it doesn't seem to be fixed in ICS. This stops developers from writing musical apps that could compete with those available on iPhone or iPad. iOS latency is around 6ms, in android devices it varies between 100ms and 40…

Yep, as a wannabe audio developer on Android, this is the bug that kills it. And they've been aware of it for a VERY long time (over 2.5 years). It's really the one factor of UI that they just don't get. What's the point in devoting so much time to getting smooth visuals and snappy response only to deem audio response to be unnecessary?

Re: We Need to Talk About Android

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this is why android will not succeed in the corporate space. might not be their target anyhow, but who knows.

IT departments in big companies love stable, homogenous platforms. buy an iphone anywhere on this world, it is exactly the same. same OS, same apps, etc. the upgrade path is known, predictable and again, completely global.

hence the success of the iPhone in that space, killing off RIM. hence the success of iPads, killing off classic Windows tablets and even notebooks. and suddenly you see macbook airs popping up in meetings and airport lounges. because once you're on iPhone and iPad - why not take the plunge? a macbook air is the same anywhere on this globe...

Re: We Need to Talk About Android

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post #44

2.2 and 2.3 currently represent about 90% of the market. From an API standpoint, these are very similar. Is iOS really that much less fragmented in real-world terms? The dramatic variations in hardware are actually a much more interesting problem than the supposed issue of OS version fragmentation, IMO.

  > Is iOS really that much less fragmented
  > in real-world terms?
http://pxldot.com/post/18754186750/ios-ebb-and-flow

Re: We Need to Talk About Android

#57
post #20

This leaves a really good space for the Android manufacturer who gets this right. I'm due to upgrade my phone and am seriously considering between iPhone and Android. The fact that my current Android phone, just a year old LG that only now runs 2.2, so quickly went out of usability makes me wonder exactly the same thing. If someone can deliver to me solid technology that keeps working with Android as it evolves (to a…

Already been done. The Nexus line of phones have the latest software directly from Google, and no carrier bloat. Really, anyone technical enough to read HN should go with a Galaxy Nexus or Nexus S vs. ANY other Android phone.

Does this apply to their small phones? Perhaps it is because of reading HN that I am of the perception that only the larger more feature-full phones are maintained well (or perhaps just that my friends who have bought these just got the big version, having large male rucksacks). The Nexus that I am aware of doesn't fit in my purse.

Re: We Need to Talk About Android

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post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Judging from the amount of people on old iPhones and iPads complaining about how every new version of iOS slows things down or is just plain not supported on their older model, that quote sounds rather... imaginative.

So, strangely, for app testing purposes, I actually own one of each model of iPhone and iPad ever made by Apple. The performance, as you said, certainly does vary. However, from my experience, there's been only one really bad moment: the iPhone 3G on iOS 4. I'd put the next worst as the original iPad on iOS 4.3 (it's better on iOS 5, actually), but even that was nowhere near as bad and still completely usable. Howeve…

If you go through the forum threads, you can see that I am not alone in being frustrated by iOS5 on the original iPad. Even scrolling on the home screen is laggy from time to time. I have already disabled Spotlight for all except apps and most notification BS.

Re: We Need to Talk About Android

#59

this is why android will not succeed in the corporate space. might not be their target anyhow, but who knows. IT departments in big companies love stable, homogenous platforms. buy an iphone anywhere on this world, it is exactly the same. same OS, same apps, etc. the upgrade path is known, predictable and again, completely global. hence the success of the iPhone in that space, killing off RIM. hence the success of iP…

Your comment is kind of funny because I remember when people bitched about the iPhone not being suitable for the enterprise.

What people are missing is that when a product gets really popular amongst consumers, the enterprise will follow regardless of its shortcomings.

Plus, Android does have advantages for the enterprise. Like its integration with the other Google services. For instance I love that my whole contacts list is backed-up in Google Apps. And the Gmail app on Android is the best Gmail app available on mobile phones.

It's a pity that I'll have to wait for an Android 4 upgrade for my Galaxy S. I blame Samsung for this as I buy from them for the hardware (which is awesome), not for their shitty "additions" to Android. This is why my next phone I buy will be a Nexus, or whatever Google's next blessed phone will be called.

Re: We Need to Talk About Android

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post #39
post #3

The endless parade of fragmentation discussions regarding Android all prove one thing: a lot of people don't understand what wins a market. Customers lacking in technological savvy make up the radical majority of Android owners, they are never going to care about this issue so long as their smart phone functions at 85% good enough. 85% good enough, is more than enough to win a market if you have substantial other adv…

>The endless parade of fragmentation discussions regarding Android all prove one thing: a lot of people don't understand what wins a market. market share is useless if your users are not spending money. Android is in the same position as Nokia 10 yrs ago. And we all know how much Nokia profited from their enormous market share.

I don't understand the comparison with Nokia. Many people I know still happily use their dumbphones from around that time. It sucks that the economic system punishes this.

Android phones are smartphones that fall apart after two years. Google doesn't care if these get replaced as long as people view ads, vendors know they can sell another device to the same person two years later. Both sides benefit from market share.

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