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The deindustrialization of Germany

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Re: The deindustrialization of Germany

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Post by jareklupinski »

kachurovskiy wrote: post #50

We're definitely huge fans of paperwork here and it hurts a lot. Want to sell something? Company registration takes months, just getting a business tax ID was 6 weeks for me. To sell electronics, register with Stiftung EAR, then find an intermediary to get you a WEEE-Nummer and report monthly (!) sales figures of all your device types. Just that registration costs 1k and 8 weeks. And don't forget your battery and pac…

> We're definitely huge fans of paperwork here and it hurts a lot.

> society is healthy

no pain, no gain :)

there's probably a terry prachett quote attributing bureaucracy to the stability of a large-scale civilization

Re: The deindustrialization of Germany

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Post by wernercd »

Archelaos wrote: post #48
tvon_g wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's directionally correct though, no? What's the case to be made that Germany is ascending? The fact that most German billionaires inherited their wealth is pretty telling I think.

It shows that inheritance tax in Germany is too low and that unfortunately there is no longer a wealth tax.

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Re: The deindustrialization of Germany

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Post by lyu07282 »

sparrc wrote: post #25

Opposite lots of commenters here deriding the article as "all over the place", I thought it was very well-written and comprehensive. Seems like there are concerns across a wide swath of companies and industries in Germany. Reading between the lines, the proposed solution seems something like lower corporate taxes (currently making decamping to Dublin more attractive) and lower energy prices. The risk brought up is th…

Also gutting labor rights, but I suppose that's always suggested by liberals no matter what

Re: The deindustrialization of Germany

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Post by fxtentacle »

kachurovskiy wrote: post #50

We're definitely huge fans of paperwork here and it hurts a lot. Want to sell something? Company registration takes months, just getting a business tax ID was 6 weeks for me. To sell electronics, register with Stiftung EAR, then find an intermediary to get you a WEEE-Nummer and report monthly (!) sales figures of all your device types. Just that registration costs 1k and 8 weeks. And don't forget your battery and pac…

"But the real fun starts if you hire someone :) The paperwork there is a magnitude more."

I've been very happy with Sage, an online SaaS to manage employees and their payments, taxes, and related paperwork.

Re: The deindustrialization of Germany

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Post by jjoonathan »

wernercd wrote: post #52
Archelaos wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It shows that inheritance tax in Germany is too low and that unfortunately there is no longer a wealth tax.

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It's pretty wild how capital has pushed all of the taxes off of their own transactions and onto the transactions involving labor. Yes indeed, it always seems to be time to take money from others that you did not earn!

Re: The deindustrialization of Germany

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Post by wernercd »

badpun wrote: post #54
wernercd wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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The childred didn't earn it either.

But the parents did and, as such, get to decide where to put that money.

Again: Always time to take money you didn't earn. Greed is an ugly emotion and socialism/marxism/theft is a fail no matter how you try to dress it up.

Re: The deindustrialization of Germany

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Post by ROTMetro »

WastingMyTime89 wrote: post #4

And obviously the reason is the lack of labour reform and not the billions in handouts currently given by the US and China which the EU refuses to match because of its brain dead insistence on undistorted markets and fiscal rigour. Ah Politico, such well researched and reasonable journalism, it warms my heart…

Is this the same Germany that last I know allowed bribes and kickbacks on international sales to be tax deductible? We lost so many contracts because the things the Germans did were illegal for a USA company.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/1995-08-06/germany-w...

I have the typical American of German descent hate for Germany because they threw my family away but now are open for everyone else to come live there (making it a huge 'fuck you and your family specifically love Germany'), but also how truly horrible they behave when it comes to business.

Re: The deindustrialization of Germany

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Post by completegap »

Archelaos wrote: post #48
tvon_g wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's directionally correct though, no? What's the case to be made that Germany is ascending? The fact that most German billionaires inherited their wealth is pretty telling I think.

It shows that inheritance tax in Germany is too low and that unfortunately there is no longer a wealth tax.

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